1 pound climbing sticks

[gcr0003]

Easier, safer, and lighter for sticks? What about noisier, cumbersome, and bulkier. Sticks are cool looking and fine to climb but I can not see middl myself going back to them no matter how light they get. I also dislike the pack and un pack time at the base of the tree. There are still too many cons to them for me. Im also not willing to pay the premium for the 1lb sticks.

 

[Plebe]

Easier, safer, and lighter for sticks? What about noisier, cumbersome, and bulkier. Sticks are cool looking and fine to climb but I can not see middl myself going back to them no matter how light they get. I also dislike the pack and un pack time at the base of the tree. There are still too many cons to them for me. Im also not willing to pay the premium for the 1lb sticks.

I don't know that sticks or one sticks are necessarily easier, safer, lighter, noisier, more cumbersome, or bulkier. Kind of depends.

 

[LtMoe66]

I was 1 sticking for awhile and recognize the advantages; light weight, easy to pack and the ability to climb to any height. Now that I found 1# hunting sticks that stack tight, I no longer 1-stick climb. Using an 3 step aider on the first stick, I can get 20 feet easily with 4 sticks. Using 4 Tethrd One Climbing sticks seems easier, safer, and faster. They also pack tightly together, making them easy to transport.

Are these light weight, tight packing, sticks moving any of you 1-stickers back to 3 - 4 climbing sticks?

Did the same thing. Got my sticks for Christmas. Was using the Skeletors which I really liked but were a little heavy. The ONE sticks are awesome

 

[gcr0003]

I don't know that sticks or one sticks are necessarily easier, safer, lighter, noisier, more cumbersome, or bulkier. Kind of depends.

I know, that’s my opinion of multiple sticks just like the first three was his opinion of sticks. I don’t see how they are not the attributes I described though. Having more than one stick does make them more cumbersome (to carry is what I was referring too) than if you only had one, bulkier than if you only had one, noisier than if you had one, take longer to pack up than one. You can mitigate some of those things pretty well, but some of that is just intrinsic to bringing multiple sticks. I’m not knocking multiply sticks nor the one sticks, I’m just stating why it is hard for me to go back to them.

 

[2Sloe]

I don't know that sticks or one sticks are necessarily easier, safer, lighter, noisier, more cumbersome, or bulkier. Kind of depends.

Really, the best thing is that now there are AWESOME choices for everyone and every hunting style! Wasn’t like that just 2 short years ago. And it just keeps getting better and better every year. Great to live in America! I hear people all the time saying “Boy I wish we could go back to the good ole days.” I’m 60, and when I hear that my first thought is “Dude! THESE are the good ole days!” Lol.

 

[LtMoe66]

I found my self louder and more movement with the one stick. Getting older and having knee replacement changes your flexibility and dexterity. That why it’s great to have options. Wish I started 1 sticking 20 yrs ago! Lol! The light sticks have definitely helped stay mobile.

 

[Jimmyfunk60]

Really, the best thing is that now there are AWESOME choices for everyone and every hunting style! Wasn’t like that just 2 short years ago. And it just keeps getting better and better every year. Great to live in America! I hear people all the time saying “Boy I wish we could go back to the good ole days.” I’m 60, and when I hear that my first thought is “Dude! THESE are the good ole days!” Lol.

Ive hunted off both, I hunt 100% private and majority of my sits are on prepped trees with bolts. I have used a hand climber, one stick, and tethrd one sticks as my bounce around methods this year. I have one sticked up a tree with a buck laying 50 yards away and successfully made it up the tree. I also like climbing with the sticks. For me I feel its easier to incorporate sticks because when I climbs one sticking I take different gear than when I’m on bolts. I feel it’s easier to have one set of gear you always take. For me it’s I’m strapping sticks on my pack or not.

This is just my personal experience and again I think we’re all lucky to have so much gear available to us. I should also mention I don’t have any crazy long walks and 99% of the time I know the tree I’m headed too.. I definitely can see where a 1 sticking set up would shine for the guys pounding public land.

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[John 35]

I found one sticking worked very well on perfectly straight trees that don’t have rough bark such as the trees you see on all the one sticking videos on you tube. Using multiple sticks on wonky trees that lean, fork, have lots of limbs, or have rough flaky bark isn’t a walk in the park either. But I found that I’d rather have multiple sticks if I need to climb a less than desirable tree. I think it’s probably regional and depends on what type of trees you have to climb. The best climbing method I’ve used are the cranford t steps. Literally the only down side I’ve found about them is the legality on public.

 

[John 35]

I also hate trying to advance a tether up a tree that has bark that wants to snag the rope.

 

[DOMMA]

I found one sticking worked very well on perfectly straight trees that don’t have rough bark such as the trees you see on all the one sticking videos on you tube. Using multiple sticks on wonky trees that lean, fork, have lots of limbs, or have rough flaky bark isn’t a walk in the park either. But I found that I’d rather have multiple sticks if I need to climb a less than desirable tree. I think it’s probably regional and depends on what type of trees you have to climb. The best climbing method I’ve used are the cranford t steps. Literally the only down side I’ve found about them is the legality on public.

I found the the T-steps exhausting when using on any hard wood tree. Maybe it is a regional thing but screwing them into a Oak or Beech tree is a ton of work. Do you screw-in and remove for each climb?

 

[John 35]

I found the the T-steps exhausting when using on any hard wood tree. Maybe it is a regional thing but screwing them into a Oak or Beech tree is a ton of work. Do you screw-in and remove for each climb?

I do pull them every time. When I screw them in I use a small piece of pvc pipe for leverage. Screwing them in by hand is much more work. I do unscrew them by hand I’ve found they come out much easier than they go in.

 

[Plebe]

I know, that’s my opinion of multiple sticks just like the first three was his opinion of sticks. I don’t see how they are not the attributes I described though. Having more than one stick does make them more cumbersome (to carry is what I was referring too) than if you only had one, bulkier than if you only had one, noisier than if you had one, take longer to pack up than one. You can mitigate some of those things pretty well, but some of that is just intrinsic to bringing multiple sticks. I’m not knocking multiply sticks nor the one sticks, I’m just stating why it is hard for me to go back to them.

In a box:

An EWO UP platform is 13.5" wide x 7&3/4" deep. Available on an 18" stick it's 1883 cuin. On a 15" stick it's 1569 cuin.

Vs

Tethrd ONE stick 3pack at 20.5" long stacked, that's 1076 cuin.






It just depends. These are issues single and multiple sticks are working through. I really like how the Shikar's pack. Now OOAL is making folding one stick platforms too. Then folks complain about fiddle, lol.

There's all sorts of gear options.

Sure someone can single stick climb with a minimalist stick and hunt off a ROS or platform. I don't know how multiple of those same sticks couldn't be bulkier, but that doesn't make it canon that a single stick is less bulky than multiple sticks, across a field of equipment options.

 

[Cbigbear]

I’ve never personally used one of the “dedicated” one sticking setups, but have seen a few at demo days & watched videos. Does anyone have an approximate pack up time for their setup? Multiple sticks get a knock for packing & unpacking. However, with a good multi stick setup it takes maybe 2 mins to pack up. I don’t believe I could wrap up the cam cleat rope, wrap up the aider, coil the pull down rope, roll up & store rappel rope any faster than a couple mins.

 

[KYhunter66]

I’ve never personally used one of the “dedicated” one sticking setups, but have seen a few at demo days & watched videos. Does anyone have an approximate pack up time for their setup? Multiple sticks get a knock for packing & unpacking. However, with a good multi stick setup it takes maybe 2 mins to pack up. I don’t believe I could wrap up the cam cleat rope, wrap up the aider, coil the pull down rope, roll up & store rappel rope any faster than a couple mins.

My pull up rope is my tether! and not having 5 straps on my sticks to pack up I think it's faster.

 

[ryderofred]

In a box:

An EWO UP platform is 13.5" wide x 7&3/4" deep. Available on an 18" stick it's 1883 cuin. On a 15" stick it's 1569 cuin.

Vs

Tethrd ONE stick 3pack at 20.5" long stacked, that's 1076 cuin.


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It just depends. These are issues single and multiple sticks are working through. I really like how the Shikar's pack. Now OOAL is making folding one stick platforms too. Then folks complain about fiddle, lol.

There's all sorts of gear options.

Sure someone can single stick climb with a minimalist stick and hunt off a ROS or platform. I don't know how multiple of those same sticks couldn't be bulkier, but that doesn't make it canon that a single stick is less bulky than multiple sticks, across a field of equipment options.

Some good points, but how high are you getting on 3 one sticks? And there is also a separate platform that has to be accounted for.


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[Cbigbear]

My pull up rope is my tether! and not having 5 straps on my sticks to pack up I think it's faster.

Alright so using your setup you have 30’-40’ of small diameter dynema & 30’- 40’ of 8-9mm rappel line to coil & store vs 40’ of daisy chain or web strapping to store. Maybe your method for continuous line is better but you still have more to deal with.

This Stagg’s video is more applicable to rope management.

 

[Cbigbear]

Some good points, but how high are you getting on 3 one sticks? And there is also a separate platform that has to be accounted for.


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3 One’s is my setup so I’ll jump in. Approx 18’ with a single moveable aider. I’m also running a Predator platform. This setup packs pretty small & flatter than a dedicated stick. It also offers more platform room, but comes with about 3lbs extra weight.

 

[TNSTAAFL]

This vid gives a cool side by side comparison, mostly focusing on time.

He should have installed a tether at hunting height on the 4-stick side as well as a bow lowering cord to be wrapped up at the base for a fairer comparison (since these necessary steps are built into the 1-stick method and take time).

In the end the time delta is minimal. The weight delta given modern stick weights and all the rappel gear weight is also minimal. Finally, the post above about the overall bulk packing minimal delta is well made.

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[Plebe]

Some good points, but how high are you getting on 3 one sticks? And there is also a separate platform that has to be accounted for.

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I don’t have Tethrd One sticks. @Cbigbear has chimed in on that. I believe he knows a thing or two about one sticking, having introduced it.

To be clear, I’m not debating the merits of either or. My point is that there are pros and cons across a field of equipment (and methods). Generalities may be generally helpful, but I don’t find them specifically helpful. Not to mention, on paper issues don’t necessarily mean a heck of a lot when someone employs a refined hunting system.

For the tall straight limbless tree problem, give me a climbing platform. Very branchy trees, I like sticks and a stand or large platform. Presets, rope climbing. Scout and hunt, 2TC or maybe one stick or platform climb (no stick). Private, m100u and ladder steps or a ladder stand in really brushy hemlock. etc.

 

[ryderofred]

I don’t have Tethrd One sticks. @Cbigbear has chimed in on that. I believe he knows a thing or two about one sticking, having introduced it.

To be clear, I’m not debating the merits of either or. My point is that there are pros and cons across a field of equipment (and methods). Generalities may be generally helpful, but I don’t find them specifically helpful. Not to mention, on paper issues don’t necessarily mean a heck of a lot when someone employs a refined hunting system.

For the tall straight limbless tree problem, give me a climbing platform. Very branchy trees, I like sticks and a stand or large platform. Presets, rope climbing. Scout and hunt, 2TC or maybe one stick or platform climb (no stick). Private, m100u and ladder steps or a ladder stand in really brushy hemlock. etc.

100% agree! I think that’s why we are always changing things up. There are no clear cut best ways to climb a tree. Everything has trade-offs. Climbing trees is not a walk in the park and can be very difficult, no matter what the YouTube videos say!


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