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1sticking

rambotogo said:
Do people one stick without a linesman belt ?
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I carry a linemans and use it when the tree has limbs. and when I need a redirect on my tether. the only trees that I don't like to climb 1 sticking are severely leaning trees. they are better climbed with multiple sticks IMO. severely leaning trees I have found don't work well with any system using aiders. I started 1 sticking last November and have killed 3 nice bucks in under 15 sits.
 
Still Kicking said:
I use 4 sticks with a 3 step aider on the bottom one to hang presets. I just find it more hassle free than a throw line. It's pretty brushy where I hunt and can't tell you how many times I have made more noise and commotion trying to get a line over a limb without tangling up in the brush. I do hunt some with the sticks also but go pretty slow getting up as I use a tether instead of a linemans. Coming down I rappel and take steps off as I descend.
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Ive thought of this alot lol. I kniw i would be the same way.
i see myself throwing it everywhere but where i need it.
cursing and getting frustrated with my loss of accuracy with throwing over the years.
i was a pretty good pitcher and qb years ago lol.
 
After 20 years of using a climber, this is only my second year saddle hunting and 1-sticking. For me it’s what works best and I can’t see changing from that. I’m not overweight and consider myself in “good” shape so I can’t speak to how it would be for someone not in shape. I’d say it may be a little more difficult but as stated before, slow and easy is the key. I get to a tree and take my time getting up. I’m not worried about speed or big moves with the stick. It takes me about 5 moves to get to 25’. I think if you are already familiar with using aiders then you probably won’t have any trouble 1-sticking.


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I think Its just silly to worry about the weight of few sticks, 3 or 4 for hawks with aiders is childs play, and way safer than dropping a stick and being stuck like a cat up a tree.

Find someone with a SRT setup and give it a whirl. A few reps of practice is all it takes. Always under tension, with a safe way to get down. If you can pre set your trees...even better. The cost factor is an issue to start. ....ropes, ascenders, gris gris etc. But once you are set up, its pretty cool!
 
Jokerswild said:
I think Its just silly to worry about the weight of few sticks, 3 or 4 for hawks with aiders is childs play, and way safer than dropping a stick and being stuck like a cat up a tree.

Find someone with a SRT setup and give it a whirl. A few reps of practice is all it takes. Always under tension, with a safe way to get down. If you can pre set your trees...even better. The cost factor is an issue to start. ....ropes, ascenders, gris gris etc. But once you are set up, its pretty cool!
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No msn i get it. The weight is really only a few lbs savings.
i need to look into this srt method.
is there any videos explaining in depth.
ill look butjust wondering if there are any really good specific ones
 
I don't use a lineman. I use my rappel line if I need to go around a limb, or want to switch trunks on multi trunk
 
I usually use a LB after my first move, and also don't make my moves quite as big as they can be so I can take up slack and not climb above anchor. Takes some forethought, practice, and a little extra time but can be done safely imo.

SRT is fun but minimally practical for run and gun it pretty much requires presets. I view it as a good supplementary skill to have.
 
Robert loper said:
No msn i get it. The weight is really only a few lbs savings.
i need to look into this srt method.
is there any videos explaining in depth.
ill look butjust wondering if there are any really good specific ones
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Have you checked out any of JRBs content? His method is sort of like two SRT climbs at the same time. If you're already rappelling or planning on it you just need the footloop
 
elk yinzer said:
I usually use a LB after my first move, and also don't make my moves quite as big as they can be so I can take up slack and not climb above anchor. Takes some forethought, practice, and a little extra time but can be done safely imo.

SRT is fun but minimally practical for run and gun it pretty much requires presets. I view it as a good supplementary skill to have.
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I have a sling shot rigged up to a fishing reel.... I can have a rope over a branch in no time, So as far as run and gun, it can be done. Presets are easier no doubt.
 
elk yinzer said:
I usually use a LB after my first move, and also don't make my moves quite as big as they can be so I can take up slack and not climb above anchor. Takes some forethought, practice, and a little extra time but can be done safely imo.

SRT is fun but minimally practical for run and gun it pretty much requires presets. I view it as a good supplementary skill to have.
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I have a sling shot rigged up to a fishing reel.... I can have a rope over a branch in no time, So as far as run and gun, it can be done. Presets are easier no doubt.
 
Robert loper said:
Wondering for next year if Im to old and to fat for one sticking?
honestly im quite round but im pretty strong.
I would only be saving the weight of two sticks.
ummertime heat during early season. would be the only time i would probably have trouble.
Whats everyones thoughts?
could i?
Or stick with the 3 sticks and platform.
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Just to chime back in on this quick. I’m not in the best of shape either I’m 220 and not athletic one bit… it’s more so technique than it is strength. I primarily hunt presets (bolts) but I always carry my stick with me for two reasons. First it’s 9/10 times my platform for my pre sets and secondly you never know when something might look good on the walk in. It’s such a versatile option to have and a great addition to any arsenal. When I did srt I would one stick up to tie in my paracord for pre sets so I wasn’t throwing a string around in the dark like a donkey. The weight savings isn’t really that much though. Yea sure you’re eliminating sticks but now you have to add in a rappel rope and a descender. So right off the bat you just about added the weight of one stick right back in
 
Robert loper said:
Wondering for next year if Im to old and to fat for one sticking?
honestly im quite round but im pretty strong.
I would only be saving the weight of two sticks.
ummertime heat during early season. would be the only time i would probably have trouble.
Whats everyones thoughts?
could i?
Or stick with the 3 sticks and platform.
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I would keep all options open. Try it for next season and see. I just started saddle hunting and one sticking this season. I love one sticking. I’ve maybe practice 100 climbs since March. If you are overweight I can see and issue. I’m old and can still kick A##. I know you can loose weight and get in shape but don’t let age be a factor in trying something different. I may try 2tc for next year. Take a no thank you bite like I tell my grandkids. Never hurts to try something new. Talk to others that know the safe way to do it. Practice practice, practice.
 
bodark said:
Lol I gave it an honest shake last summer and decided after one trip up the tree it wasn’t for me! You’ll get guys that love it but swinging on a 3 or 5 step aider in the dark and trying to push myself out from the tree and bend down to grab the stick…not for me. Not to mention every time you pull the rope from the jaws of the can cleat it makes a God awful clank as the jaws shut.
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Lol, one trip up the tree and you couldn’t do it so you deem it the most dangerous thing since Freddy Krueger???

And I can tell you why you struggled mightily, but I’ve said it over and over to multiple people and most of them didn’t listen either and you don’t want to know anyway so I won’t bother. Everyone wants “the coolest”, not the most efficient.

BTW, I’m old and fat and live in SC where it can be miserably hot. One sticking is easy, some folks on this site make it ungodly complicated and laborious.
 
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1- stick is worth practicing some so that your familiar anyway, just in case. What if a stick kicks out or something? Always smart to be prepared and have options. I feel the same about srt. Maybe it's not your go-to but it's a good tool to have.
For example, I no-sticked up last night. Cool. Pull up pack. Good. Pull up bow with release on the string. No good, release got pulled off. No problem, dropped rapell line down. Rapell and srt back up with a prusik and Garda hitch foot loop. Easy as taking my coat off and grabbing my foot loop out of my pack
 
You might consider giving 2TC a try. Think about it like this. You already have a main tether, right? And you are comfortable hanging from it right? You also said you use aiders. My guess is that if you are confident in using an aider and are comfortable in hanging by your main tether that you can likely make 2TC work. The other cool thing is that you can try it out pretty easily without buying new things. All you would need is a foot tether since you already have a main tether. If you do try it out, do it low and slow. Master the move. Getting high up a tree is just repeating the move. It is all about making short, controlled moves. Below is a picture of my simple setup. The top tether is 11.4mm Bluewater assault line and the bottom is a Blakes hitch foot tether made out of 12 feet of Sampson predator. In 2TC you will have less slack in the system and no reaching down.
 

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NMSbowhunter said:
You might consider giving 2TC a try. Think about it like this. You already have a main tether, right? And you are comfortable hanging from it right? You also said you use aiders. My guess is that if you are confident in using an aider and are comfortable in hanging by your main tether that you can likely make 2TC work. The other cool thing is that you can try it out pretty easily without buying new things. All you would need is a foot tether since you already have a main tether. If you do try it out, do it low and slow. Master the move. Getting high up a tree is just repeating the move. It is all about making short, controlled moves. Below is a picture of my simple setup. The top tether is 11.4mm Bluewater assault line and the bottom is a Blakes hitch foot tether made out of 12 feet of Sampson predator. In 2TC you will have less slack in the system and no reaching down.
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Definitely on my radar to try. Thanks NMS I may call on you for advice. Maybe after this bow season I will work on it. Thanks.
 
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