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8mm Oplux questions & uses

redsquirrel said:
I've used a duck for a few years, now I'm using a ropeman2 for the second year in a row. Neither is designed for being the sole life support device, I think that is what @sojourner was saying. Anyone who chooses to use it as so should at least know that. I've been backing up my ropeman2 with a prusik since last season. I don't think it's necessary, but it's stupid easy to do.
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ok I reread it I thought he was saying the kong duck isn't designed for saddle hunting but the ropeman is
 
Ok guys, got my 60cm jammy, ready to cut the sewn loop to use on my Tether (with a tender). Swabish or distel? Why? Not trying to start a negative thread, just curious. Currently using a prusik with DanO's tender, but willing to try a different knot if it's better. Thanks!! (Still gonna run my Kong on my lineman's, lol)
 
Islandshooter said:
Ok guys, got my 60cm jammy, ready to cut the sewn loop to use on my Tether (with a tender). Swabish or distel? Why? Not trying to start a negative thread, just curious. Currently using a prusik with DanO's tender, but willing to try a different knot if it's better. Thanks!! (Still gonna run my Kong on my lineman's, lol)
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Distel. Easier to keep dressed in the oplux.

Check out other topic. Good info. there too.

Oplux and Beal jammy (NO KONG DUCK) question

https://saddlehunter.com/community...x-and-beal-jammy-no-kong-duck-question.17701/



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Once you cut the sewn loop, you can easily try the distel, schwabisch and klemheist knots and see what works best for you.

For me, the distel is easier to tend. The ends come out on opposite sides of the hitch and that makes it easier to dress the knot (tighten it on the rope before use). Also I like how the tender gets more contact with the hitch when tending.

But your mileage might vary. Try them out at ground level and choose for yourself.
 
The distel is simple and easy to use with a tender. I can adjust my LB and tether just as easy as a ropeman 2


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Simple question. I have the oplux and I've been using the kong duck. However I ordered the 35cm jammy. Will it be OK for me to use the 35cm jammy as a prusik? This will be for my tether. That's my plan at least.

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lungpuncher1 said:
Simple question. I have the oplux and I've been using the kong duck. However I ordered the 35cm jammy. Will it be OK for me to use the 35cm jammy as a prusik? This will be for my tether. That's my plan at least.

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That’s what I started with. It works great as a Prusik. I just found the distel easier to use one handed.


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lungpuncher1 said:
Simple question. I have the oplux and I've been using the kong duck. However I ordered the 35cm jammy. Will it be OK for me to use the 35cm jammy as a prusik? This will be for my tether. That's my plan at least.

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Ya I want to know the same thing is a 35mm jammy even long enough to tie a distel an why not keep it simple with a prusik? You say it's easier to tend?

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wildfire93 said:
That’s what I started with. It works great as a Prusik. I just found the distel easier to use one handed.


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You don't need the 50mm jammy for a distel then I'm assuming

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AsherBlue said:
Ya I want to know the same thing is a 35mm jammy even long enough to tie a distel an why not keep it simple with a prusik? You say it's easier to tend?

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Night and day easier to tend. As with everything play with it on the ground.
 
AsherBlue said:
You don't need the 50mm jammy for a distel then I'm assuming

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I ended up getting a 50cm just because I didn’t know if the 35 would make it. There was a significant amount of end that I trimmed off, so you may be able to swing it with a 35cm


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If you un-stitch the 35cm jammy you will have enough for a distel but just take into account that the ends that were stitched are now the part of the cord your knots are tied in.
 
wildfire93 said:
I ended up getting a 50cm just because I didn’t know if the 35 would make it. There was a significant amount of end that I trimmed off, so you may be able to swing it with a 35cm


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I'll note that it's a lot easier to cut (and tie!) a rope that's too long, than one that's too short. I retied the blake's hitch on my kestrel to a distel, and the cord was just barely long enough. It was a pain in the ass to tie, and sorta marginal. It worked fine for me with heavy testing. Then I had my wife test out sitting in the saddle in the basement, and (because she didn't trust the tether and was pulling on it below the knot.) watched her slide right to the stopper.

So the moral is:
Don't be stingy with the rope (could have used another turn...)
Have the discipline to test things in ways you'll never use them. Watching a hitch that I'd hung from dozens of times fail consistently for someone else was a bit of an eye opener.
 
After the saddle scare :rage: did your wife refer to you with words she doesn't normally speak :eek:?
 
slonstdy said:
After the saddle scare :rage: did your wife refer to you with words she doesn't normally speak :eek:?
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It was like 6in or a foot or something. No biggie.

Mostly just a reminder to consciously vary human factors and really explore the studio space while testing.
 
Lucky for you, lol.
Funny how things that are easy or come natural for one can be drastically different for another.
 
So I ordered several beals to use as a distel hitch thinking I finally will be up to “code” over ropeman1. I was going to cut and distel hitch it. Now we are seeing that it is potential unsafe and leaving it as a sewn loop is not recommended for life support as well? So is the 6mm trc the safest way to hang from a tether?


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Aeds151 said:
So I ordered several beals to use as a distel hitch thinking I finally will be up to “code” over ropeman1. I was going to cut and distel hitch it. Now we are seeing that it is potential unsafe and leaving it as a sewn loop is not recommended for life support as well? So is the 6mm trc the safest way to hang from a tether?


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For all we know beal's jammy cord is the 5.5mm kevlar/aramide cord that is available over in europe and specifically indicated for friction hitch use and does not appear to have any issues with knots. Maybevthey'll reply back with an OK?
 
Im eagerly awaiting the info before I cut these things or use them. I imagine with my size I can generate quite the force if I was to fall. I just cant hunt until I know I am within spec for life support


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Aeds151 said:
Im eagerly awaiting the info before I cut these things or use them. I imagine with my size I can generate quite the force if I was to fall. I just cant hunt until I know I am within spec for life support


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What are your conceens using in a loop? And what are you doing instead?
 
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