Amsteel 50 Feet Full Length Bury

[gcr0003]

It's a secret. Search for climbing on Amsteel.

I was afraid that was what you were going to say haha.

 

[bj139]

The videos do show my thinking on safety. I will not climb on anything I don't feel 99% good on. Sticks are like that for me.
If I do a full bury on 3/16" (4.76mm) I should get close to 9mm which is then within spec of the ascender(8mm-13mm).

 

[Homebrew454]

3/16 inch a did should work. You could try the fish line. I just did this with 15 get off 7/64 for one stick climbing. It took about 15 minutes and I was left with about 9 feet but I did create another locked brummel on a bight at the other end to grab onto. I then buried back there other way. Otherwise I think I would have had maybe 12-13 feet.

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[Homebrew454]

If you're looking to rappel down, I would strongly suggest against this idea. There is some heat generated and I'm not sure how the Amsteel would handle it.

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[Ontariofarmer]

If you're looking to rappel down, I would strongly suggest against this idea. There is some heat generated and I'm not sure how the Amsteel would handle it.

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Isn’t that why we have ultra tech. To protect against heat


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[bj139]

If you're looking to rappel down, I would strongly suggest against this idea. There is some heat generated and I'm not sure how the Amsteel would handle it.

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Yes. No rappel. I was thinking of down climbing with 2 toothed ascenders. It is called the Texas kick although I am using it in Pennsylvania.

 

[bj139]

Isn’t that why we have ultra tech. To protect against heat


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Yes. I might buy Ultra Tek but Oplux is lighter. Ultra Tek is an aramid heat resistant fiber while Oplux is a non heat resistant UHMPE but I know you knew this, just restating it.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Yes. I might buy Ultra Tek but Oplux is lighter. Ultra Tek is an aramid heat resistant fiber while Oplux is a non heat resistant UHMPE but I know you knew this, just restating it.

Ultra tech is 4 lbs per 100 feet.
Over 7000 pound break strength.
Oplux is 2.8 pounds. And just over 5000 pounds av break strength.

Yet Oplux is recommended for climbing and ultra tech is not.

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[Ontariofarmer]

Yes. No rappel. I was thinking of down climbing with 2 toothed ascenders. It is called the Texas kick although I am using it in Pennsylvania.

Let us know how it works would rappelling not be easier

Maybe 9 mm is better for the ascender. Hence the Amsteel


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[bj139]

Ultra tech is 4 lbs per 100 feet.
Over 7000 pound break strength.
Oplux is 2.8 pounds. And just over 5000 pounds av break strength.


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My 37 foot length of Edelweiss Sella 8.5mm with 50 feet of attached paracord is a little over a pound (1 lb 6.9oz).
50 feet of 3/16" Amsteel with metal thimble, 7.6 ounces. More accurate weight with kitchen scale as opposed to luggage scale.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

My 37 foot length of Edelweiss Sella 8.5mm with 50 feet of attached paracord is a little over a pound.

Wow. Never heard of it. Does it pack well. How strong is it.


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[bj139]

Wow. Never heard of it. Does it pack well. How strong is it.


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[Chrighton]

Do you think 2 feet of copper wire would work, done multiple times of course?

Probably. When I do my long bridges, which end up at about 5ft long. I start with about 12ft of amsteel and probably 15-20ft of wire. I then double it up, feed it the whole way back to the brummel, then its just one pull all the way through.
Tie stooper know and I get about 40in of adjustability. If its too much I cut off the end.

 

[bj139]

Here is what I am trying.

 

[SnakeEater]

Here is what I am trying.

Nice shirt in them vids Bill


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[bj139]

Nice shirt in them vids Bill


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Yes. It is my favorite shirt for tree clmbing. Thanks, @Shane6491 .

 

[Homebrew454]

Isn’t that why we have ultra tech. To protect against heat


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I know that my Madrock belay device generates heat on my 9mm Sterling HTP. I don't know if this enough to cause issues with Amsteel or not. I use Sterling Hollowblock for the autoblock. There is some heat generated there too but not enough for me to worry about on the HTP. I'm not certain if it would cause problems with Amsteel or not.

I'm not certain the makers of Amsteel would approve of making a full bury and using it to rappel but I could be wrong. I'd just hate to see someone get hurt using something out of spec. Even some of the adjustable bridges with Amsteel (triad, Tethrd, etc) are probably out of spec. Are they safe? It appears they are. Could Amsteel be used to rappel on? Probably.

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[bj139]

I know that my Madrock belay device generates heat on my 9mm Sterling HTP. I don't know if this enough to cause issues with Amsteel or not. I use Sterling Hollowblock for the autoblock. There is some heat generated there too but not enough for me to worry about on the HTP. I'm not certain if it would cause problems with Amsteel or not.

I'm not certain the makers of Amsteel would approve of making a full bury and using it to rappel but I could be wrong. I'd just hate to see someone get hurt using something out of spec. Even some of the adjustable bridges with Amsteel (triad, Tethrd, etc) are probably out of spec. Are they safe? It appears they are. Could Amsteel be used to rappel on? Probably.

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I already replied I was not going to rappel with Amsteel for the very reasons you mentioned. Maybe I didn't state it right.
Do the makers of Amsteel approve of Tethrd using a full bury on a bridge? I think not.

 

[bj139]

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I already replied I was not going to rappel with Amsteel for the very reasons you mentioned. Maybe I didn't state it right.
Do the makers of Amsteel approve of Tethrd using a full bury on a bridge? I think not.

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