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Amsteel

flinginairos said:
kenn1320 said:
I dont think that will work based on how the constrictor functions. If there is not resistance on both ends of the constrictor, it doesn't constrict. I pounded my head trying to make it a single piece around the tree and coudnt do it.
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Gotcha. I wasn't sure since I haven't messed with Amsteel yet. Starting to think Amsteel might not be the ideal tether? Would work great for a bridge no doubt. Hopefully we can figure it out!


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The stuff is tough, you guys have shown that with some impressive videos. Looking around on other sites, some say no way they would contact the bark with amsteel. I see the hammock crowd puts a strap around the tree and connects to that. Is this stuff easily snagged on bark or are these guys worried about nothing? Dave uses this stuff on his sticks, where is he at to comment? Dave?????
 
As light as amsteel is, I just had a crazy idea based on how I use the tether(dont really need adjustment, just be able to hook the carabiner close to the tree). I could simply double eye splice about 8 pieces ranging in length from say 15" to 50" in 5" increments and carry them all together on one carabiner. Pick the one that fits the tree and put the rest in my pocket. :lol:

The alternative is to learn to splice like Flingin and use the yale bandit rope. :cool: Im still not sure Id feel warm and fuzzy 30ft up a tree with 1/4" rope holding me up there. :?
 
[quote="kenn1320"I see the hammock crowd puts a strap around the tree and connects to that. Is this stuff easily snagged on bark or are these guys worried about nothing? [/quote]

The hammocker's put the strap there to protect the tree. You will sometimes see the same thing from arborists and others as well. Hunters are not as friendly to the trees, but then again, I know trees that have had permanent wooden stands and spikes in them for 25 years and the stands are falling apart but the trees are still fine.
 
Yeah I understand why they don't want spike marks but gaffs sure would be nice in some of the places I hunt


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There's no way some rough tree bark is going to damage the thicker amsteel. Now it might over the course of a season of two, but it's so cheap you can just replace it.
 
Any reason not to use just the regular Amsteel over the Amsteel Blue? Seems you can get it a little cheaper and it's only slightly less strong. TreeStuff has the 1/4" for .89 a foot
 
flinginairos said:
Any reason not to use just the regular Amsteel over the Amsteel Blue? Seems you can get it a little cheaper and it's only slightly less strong. TreeStuff has the 1/4" for .89 a foot
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I had the same question. I was finding amsteel cheaper and it appears to be different than amsteel blue as you said. Do they even make different colors of amsteel blue, or is it always blue, or just a name?
 
kenn1320 said:
flinginairos said:
Any reason not to use just the regular Amsteel over the Amsteel Blue? Seems you can get it a little cheaper and it's only slightly less strong. TreeStuff has the 1/4" for .89 a foot
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I had the same question. I was finding amsteel cheaper and it appears to be different than amsteel blue as you said. Do they even make different colors of amsteel blue, or is it always blue, or just a name?
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I've found Amsteel-Blue in several different colors. TreeStuff didn't list a color for the regular Amsteel. I may call them today and ask about that. I want to order some.
 
flinginairos said:
kenn1320 said:
flinginairos said:
Any reason not to use just the regular Amsteel over the Amsteel Blue? Seems you can get it a little cheaper and it's only slightly less strong. TreeStuff has the 1/4" for .89 a foot
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I had the same question. I was finding amsteel cheaper and it appears to be different than amsteel blue as you said. Do they even make different colors of amsteel blue, or is it always blue, or just a name?
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I've found Amsteel-Blue in several different colors. TreeStuff didn't list a color for the regular Amsteel. I may call them today and ask about that. I want to order some.
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I just looked at the link I posted on pg 5 and it clearly states amsteel blue and shows the various color options. I guess i asnwered my own question. :? I did find it cheaper at another place, but with shipping it was more. :(
 
tree stuffs amsteel is gray. I messaged them about it yesterday. I put the link above to it.
 
Ends up being about $4 cheaper per 55ft than the place I found it for. :cool:

Lastly, how "sure" are we that 1/2" amsteel wont work with a ropeman1? Since its hollow braid and slippery, maybe going larger to say 3/4" would work on the ropeman1?
 
Ropeman is designed for 10-13mm rope. The 1/2" Amsteel is 12mm. I personally think it would work. The Ropeman works by crushing the rope. No matter how slick the rope is, it can only compress down so far. Also, Amsteel loses its "slickness" with use. It may want to slide in a Ropeman at first, but eventually it would bite easily. It's definitely worth a try at ground level. That tether would be SO LIGHT and pack up SO SMALL!
 
g2outdoors said:
Ropeman is designed for 10-13mm rope. The 1/2" Amsteel is 12mm. I personally think it would work. The Ropeman works by crushing the rope. No matter how slick the rope is, it can only compress down so far. Also, Amsteel loses its "slickness" with use. It may want to slide in a Ropeman at first, but eventually it would bite easily. It's definitely worth a try at ground level. That tether would be SO LIGHT and pack up SO SMALL!
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That may be the best option for a tether if the Ropeman would work. I don't see a way to easily use the Amsteel as a tether without being able to adjust it easily. Be nice with a 4" spliced eye and a ropeman!
 
Then splice another eye on the tail end to act as both a stopper knot and a secondary/backup hookup.
 
g2outdoors said:
Then splice another eye on the tail end to act as both a stopper knot and a secondary/backup hookup.
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Yes for my situation I plan on a splice on the other end to connect to my bod harness. I was just curious if the ropeman1 would work on amsteel. I already have the ropeman1, and my only complaint right now is my bluewater assault rope is bulky when packing it. Seems the amsteel would be the ticket. I was questioning using a larger diameter cause as a hollow braid, is there squish to it, or do they use larger strands to accomplish the larger diameter?
 
It's a lot squishier than the assault line. But I don't think it would squish enough to make it incompatible with a ropeman. Maybe step up from 1/2 to 5/8 which is 16mm? Certainly that wouldn't squish too much. I think 1/2 would work.
 
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