In your last picture, how long is the post you used? When packing up, do you fold the post flat first then fold down the climber bars? Is the post absolutely necessary for stability in your opinion?
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anyone else see this? panther climbing platform
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Here is a video of a similar setup but without the post... I think the post is needed to lock it on the tree otherwise it would likely move when you put side pressure on it.
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I don’t know. That one isn’t mine.
Another reason a purpose built model and well built model would be great.
Bruh. How can I get me a post like you?
Count me among those who would probably remove the post. I don't see the point of putting side pressure on a platform when you've got a platform that big. If anything, sign me up for something like shown and a Kuhnert-style harness that I can lean back into with a low bridge.
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My platform had dog ears, so it was as easy as bolts.
Otherwise, these are DIY projects from other members.
XOP Climber seat as climber and platform?
I have seen the drawings but not the actual pics. Looks great. Wonder what the “weight rating” would be. Also, any chance of an in use video? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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My only frame of reference using a climbing platform for saddle hunting was a few years back with a modded LWHC. This does look like a good climbing option if a person wants one, but I'm not sure about packing rappel gear. The LWHC was so easy to ascend/descend with that I personally couldn't justify the extra bulk of a rappel rope (sure, it's a little more weight too, but weight doesn't bother me near as much as added bulk). I have no plans to invest in a climbing platform, but if I was this would be the best one I've seen to this point. Basically looks like using a LWHC with perhaps a better band (? we'll see?), & a welcome addition in a post for stability at hunting height.
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Rappel is definitely faster by around 10 minutes... I've played around before with one sticking with regular tether on the way up & waiting to get on rappel rope until the hunt is finished. In doing so, while transitioning from tether with Ropeman One to rappel rope with Madrock; I was clumsy enough to drop my Safeguard. So I was curious just how long it would take to one stick back down since that was my only option. I was just probably a little over 20' high & it took right at 11 minutes. I really thought it would take longer than that because it sure felt awkward. So it wasn't a lot slower, that climb had taken me a little over 8 minutes & that wasn't hurrying. When I one stick I personally bounce back & forth between lineman & tether.... use my lineman while climbing the aider & stick, then unattach tether to flip it up as high as I can, unhook lineman belt while advancing stick & then once again hooking up LB to climb aider & stick.
How much time from when you decide to rappel down, to the time you walk away from the tree to leave?
Including the time to make whatever connections or switches on to rappel gear, rappel down, the time to pull down your rappel rope, untangle it from all the crap under the tree, bundle it up, pack it up.
This is the fiddle factor and time that I can’t see to get over.
Leaving the other upsides of having the secondary way out of the tree, constant tension, etc.
Are you able to do the above in less than 5 minutes on average, quietly?
I don’t one stick a lot these days. But when I did, and it was 50+ degrees so I wasn’t packing tons of layers, I’d just climb down, pick up my bow and walk away from tree with stick in hand.
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One benefit of rappel is in the event a band breaks or especially in the case of the hand climber, the platform, there’s an easy way down. Or if for any reason you dropped the platform.
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When I tried to use a LW hand Climber seat as a climbing platform, any side pressure was not stable. So that led me to try and ratchet strap it to the tree at hunting height. Which for me was a struggle trying to bend over and do all of that at my feet. that was the end of that experiment for me. I can see why they use the post and the aider solves my bending over and getting a strap around the tree problem.
However; I am not interested in trying this method again. A basic setup of a platform is what I find is best along with sticks. Only negative is the carrying and packing of sticks.
However; I am not interested in trying this method again. A basic setup of a platform is what I find is best along with sticks. Only negative is the carrying and packing of sticks.
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I don't find it excessively fiddly at all. YMMV.
These are important considerations best not left aside. They help justify the tradeoff of some fiddliness, IMO.
Haven't timed myself, but it feels like no more than this.
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I don’t mean to leave the other considerations aside as in they don’t matter. I’m acknowledging all the reasons folks are going to tell me to rappel ahead of time. I’m trying to drill down specifically on the time and annoyance at the base of a tree after a hunt.
And I’m doing so with an open mind. I’ve tried it a couple dozen times. I can’t make it make sense. Part of that probably has a lot to do with hunting places where the amount of stuff around a tree makes corralling rappel rope after a hunt a pain.
I’m trying to see if this is a place I can improve.
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We all have different priorities and experiences for sure. I too thought the climb down with my LWHC was easy, but still would choose to pack rappel gear if I was doing it today.
I feel like the "pack rappel gear" argument gets overplayed and I hope it doesn't scare people off. My rappel setup weighs 1.75 lbs and fits completely in a small EWO fleece pouch. I don't have to bring a separate tether which has to be half a pound and itself is like 10 feet of rope. So for a little over a pound and a small dump pouch's amount of space I can bail from the tree at a moment's notice, and enjoy the ride at the end of a hunt. Of the things I'm tempted to just leave at the truck, or regret the weight/bulk/fiddle factor of, my rappel setup is never one of them.
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I got you. I did pick up on your brush around the base of the tree question. I can see that being an issue, even if I don't personally typically experience that.
Always tradeoffs to consider, and you do more than most to consider them all.
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