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Anyone here actually climbing with strap on steps?

Micromanagement 335 said:
From the top of my knee to the bottom of my foot is 25 inches 8 steps then my ring of steps gets me to around 17 to 18 feet.
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You must be really tall! The length of cubit is based on length from bottom of foot to knee or elbow to tip of middle finger or an average adult male. It is around 18”. It also correlated to how high one can step up without difficulty. IMO, that is why most sticks have 18” or less spacing. And you have 25”. Looks like sticks won’t give you the spacing best fit for your body.
 
Oh, and to be on topic, I used strap on steps years ago, not a fan. I do use sticks and Stepps now.
 
sojourner said:
You must be really tall! The length of cubit is based on length from bottom of foot to knee or elbow to tip of middle finger or an average adult male. It is around 18”. It also correlated to how high one can step up without difficulty. IMO, that is why most sticks have 18” or less spacing. And you have 25”. Looks like sticks won’t give you the spacing best fit for your body.
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I have 24-1/4" from bottom of foot to tip of thigh (measured for a bike fit I had) and I'm 6' even. I don't think it has anything to do with height. Body proportions are highly varied. Long legs, short torso etc. That's why there is an average and mass produced equipment is generally made for the lowest common denominator, not the average. Companies want to sell to the widest market they can. Also, the cubit was developed when the average height of a male was like 5' 6" or something like that.

sojourner said:
Oh, and to be on topic, I used strap on steps years ago, not a fan. I do use sticks and Stepps now.
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This is the exact opposite of my experience. I've tried 4 different climbing sticks and prefer strap on steps. They are more pack friendly, and I climb just as high with 10 strap on steps as I would with 4 climbing sticks all with aiders. Different strokes.
 
JSEXTON23 said:
I have 24-1/4" from bottom of foot to tip of thigh (measured for a bike fit I had) and I'm 6' even. I don't think it has anything to do with height. Body proportions are highly varied. Long legs, short torso etc. That's why there is an average and mass produced equipment is generally made for the lowest common denominator, not the average. Companies want to sell to the widest market they can. Also, the cubit was developed when the average height of a male was like 5' 6" or something like that.



This is the exact opposite of my experience. I've tried 4 different climbing sticks and prefer strap on steps. They are more pack friendly, and I climb just as high with 10 strap on steps as I would with 4 climbing sticks all with aiders. Different strokes.
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Measurement to tip of thigh is probably not same as “cubit” measurement. I am a hair under 6’ and my cubit measurements, foot to knee and elbow to tip of middle finger are both 18”. So I am average in cubit length on both accounts.

Care to share your measurement from elbow to tip of middle finger? Just curious, not trying to be argumentative.

With variability comes statistics and standard deviations (assuming bell shaped curve). Most of a population (with bell shaped statistical curve) will be with plus/minus 2 to 3 standard deviations. With that, I think a mfr. keeping step height under 18” covers a vast majority of the populations minimum needs. At least that is how it works out in my mind. . Looking back, I think we are saying the same thing, just in different ways.

Glad you like the strap on steps. Did you ever try Stepps? Kind of like strap on steps, but bigger and can get two feet on one If you angle your feet. I think I am too heavy and clumsy for the smaller strap on steps, but Stepps work fine for me.

Thx
 
No 5' 10" 54 years young. That's just how I space them as I climb. With my foot on the step in the bent position I set the next one just above my knee. Which is right at 25 inches I have no problem climbing at all.
 
sojourner said:
Measurement to tip of thigh is probably not same as “cubit” measurement. I am a hair under 6’ and my cubit measurements, foot to knee and elbow to tip of middle finger are both 18”. So I am average in cubit length on both accounts.

Care to share your measurement from elbow to tip of middle finger? Just curious, not trying to be argumentative.

With variability comes statistics and standard deviations (assuming bell shaped curve). Most of a population (with bell shaped statistical curve) will be with plus/minus 2 to 3 standard deviations. With that, I think a mfr. keeping step height under 18” covers a vast majority of the populations minimum needs. At least that is how it works out in my mind. . Looking back, I think we are saying the same thing, just in different ways.

Glad you like the strap on steps. Did you ever try Stepps? Kind of like strap on steps, but bigger and can get two feet on one If you angle your feet. I think I am too heavy and clumsy for the smaller strap on steps, but Stepps work fine for me.

Thx
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We are likely saying the same thing. And if I measure, with a 90 degree bend in my knee, from floor to mid-knee I'm looking at 21.5" roughly. Middle of elbow joint to middle of a fist is 13-1/2" for me.

I tried Stepps and just didn't care for them. All that rope that I have to dig out of a bag, it hanging down and the noise it made pulling it out of the bag. I just didn't like it. Maybe if I climbed with 4 of them and aiders to get to height it wouldn't be that bad, but not my favorite.
 
I use 10 ameristeps in a sewn bag similar to the WE. bag. No need to wrap ea step, just drop in bag w/ straps hanging down as I climb or descend. Once on the ground I stuff all the straps in on top. I'll never go back to carrying heavy , bulky sticks.
 
HappyChappy said:
I actually love the Cranford rope steps. If you use them like the owner demonstrated in his YouTube video, they will get sufficiently tight. As far as speed goes, yes there are more parts to affix to the tree than sticks, but if you carry them in a satchel, you just walk up to the tree and start climbing—no unpack/pack up time like you have with sticks. So I’d say it’s close to a draw time-wise between steps and sticks. Plus, steps are lighter and more compact.


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I agree.
 
Vtbow said:
They're recycled old ameristep straps, but I bet you can get them from @DanO
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I checked his site but didn't see any of those.
I did find these. Does this look right?
www.strapworks.com

Flat Hook Ratchet Tie Down | Trunk Tie Down Strap

Great for tying down things on top of cars or in trunks, this flat hook ratchet strap is capable of holding 900-pound loads. Buy your tie down straps today!
www.strapworks.com
 
okccj said:
I checked his site but didn't see any of those.
I did find these. Does this look right?
www.strapworks.com

Flat Hook Ratchet Tie Down | Trunk Tie Down Strap

Great for tying down things on top of cars or in trunks, this flat hook ratchet strap is capable of holding 900-pound loads. Buy your tie down straps today!
www.strapworks.com
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Looks like That'll work if ypu cut the short one off so you can just hook the other one around the bar of the cam strap.
 
Vtbow said:
Looks like That'll work if ypu cut the short one off so you can just hook the other one around the bar of the cam strap.
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Or pit a want add up..I bet peopl have straps kicking around from when they made a ROS
 
I have used the same 7 ameristeps for about 30 years. Used to just hunt exclusively out of the old lock on type stands. Remove steps every hunt. Was an easy transition climb up and hunt from a saddle. Just started using the linesman rope last year when i converted to the saddle. Wish I would have used it earlier. Makes climbing and setting up much easier.
 
Bump. The 30ft Mr. Eberhart thread got me wanting to try steps again. Not to get 30ft, but just because I have never used this climbing method. Does anyone climb with the new Treehopper Steps. I've always wanted to try them out, at least once.

Seems like there is a bunch of love for the cranfords too. Decisions...

Also to any of you that posted over the summer that you exclusively climb steps, has that remained the same or have you moved onto something new?

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