Anyone using the HALFLINE system by NY Saddle Hunter or JRB SRT on the fly this SeAsoN?

[skyjacker]

How are you using the rap ring? Do you just feed the tail through the ring and pull it through to choke the tree/ limb?

Also how are you rappelling? That CRIC looks pretty sweet. Do you have to take it off the rope when it's time to come down or am I missing something?

I don't use a carabiner on the end of the rope. I tie the paracord close to end of the rope so it's inline with the rope. It goes right through the rap ring. See an example in the video below.

I guess you could use one of those micro nite ize biners https://niteize.com/microlink-carabiner As long as the biner can pass through the rap ring your good to go.

The CRIC comes off the rope just like any other ascender. I take it off as soon as I get to hunting height. If the placement of the climbing rope allows me to use it as a tether, I'll use it, otherwise I switch to a tether once I'm on my platform. When I'm ready to come down, I connect to the F4, remove the tether and rappel.

I always carry a tether even I don't use it. If I get in some sticky situation while climbing or rappelling, I can use the tether to take the weight off the rope and fix whatever needs to be fixed.

 

[skyjacker]

I believe he is using the CRIC in place of the CT Quickroll ascender. I'm using a Kong Futura instead of the CT Quickroll myself, since I had it already. I just remove it and rappel using the F4.

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Doesn't need to be locking since your just putting the brake strand of the rope through it. The pulleys really help feed the rope smoothly when climbing using the hip thrust technique.

If you don't do the hip thrust and use a foot loop, you don't need a pulley. When you stand on the foot loop you're taking the load off your saddle and the rope can easily slide through any carabiner without a pulley.

 

[skyjacker]

Does it have to be a bigger open eye or will it feed through a quick link or ring?


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I wouldn't use a quicklink for SRT, it's oval and not round making it harder to feed the rope through, the screw can loosen and come open, and they can still be cross loaded. Quicklinks are fine for one sticking because you can keep an eye on it during the climb. For SRT, you want a rappel ring. They make large rappel rings - 40 mm or 1.5 inch inner diameter. So that might be a better option if you want to get a small carabiner through it.

 

[RandomHero18]

The Cric looks awesome and will probably switch to that once I get my oplux, I have C-IV right now with the quick roll but want to go to oplux with the CRIC for the space savings... Where did you find the CRIC I can't find one in stock anywhere.

@skyjacker That set up is 100% what I am going for. Just have to piece it together, if you want to trade for my wingman one stick you just let me know haha.

 

[skyjacker]

The Cric looks awesome and will probably switch to that once I get my oplux, I have C-IV right now with the quick roll but want to go to oplux with the CRIC for the space savings... Where did you find the CRIC I can't find one in stock anywhere.

Yeah it just released in like May or June. I couldn't find it anywhere in stock in the US. Had it shipped from Canada ... I order a few weeks ago and they were in stock.

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These guys are in Maine and are much cheaper. But of course out of stock. Call them and see when they expect the next shipment.

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[Crcusmonky]

I wouldn't use a quicklink for SRT, it's oval and not round making it harder to feed the rope through, the screw can loosen and come open, and they can still be cross loaded. Quicklinks are fine for one sticking because you can keep an eye on it during the climb. For SRT, you want a rappel ring. They make large rappel rings - 40 mm or 1.5 inch inner diameter. So that might be a better option if you want to get a small carabiner through it.

Good info. Thanks.


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[skyjacker]

Video from NYSH explaining the whole foot loop vs hip thrust thing ...

If you are physically capable to do the hip thrust method, it's much faster and you make more progress per move. In my opinion it also uses less energy.

 

[bowhunthard88]

You could easily replace the Cric with a CT Roll N' Lock (or directional hitch) and a Petzl Rollclip (or even a standard carabiner). I prefer the Quick Roll because it is really easy to attach/detach (you don't need to open any sheaves to install and then lock with a carabiner) and you don't need to worry about dropping it if it's tethered to you (my Quick Roll tether also dictates advancement length and is Beal 5.5mm cordage which could be used in an emergency).

 

[skyjacker]

Here John shows an example of passing the tag end of the climbing line through the rap ring. It feeds just fine. Oplux 8mm feeds much smoother through a smaller rap ring because the rope is smaller. It also helps to use a scaffold knot or buffalo hitch on the rap ring to make it less floppy than the tight sewn eye in this example.

 

[Oklahoma33]

I agree on less metal. I got the CT Roll only because I didn't have the strength to do it fast enough AND it was taxing. I'm likely going to stick with the LongHorn VS adding the gri gri OR F4.
I added my own footloop design, which worded to test things out, but I'm ordering a adjustable footloop, the Amsteel Elevaider SS Delux, from the Amsteel guy that is 60 inches long and adjusts shorter as needed on the fly. I used these last year on my JRB Hitch climbing 1 sticking set up.

Where are you seeing the 60” Amsteel adjustable loop?


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[Kevin2]

If you want to order it, you need to message the Amsteel guy on his Etsy site and special order it. I paid extra because obviously it’s over twice the size. It’s attached to the CT roll just like in this video at the 2:30 mark.

I have a girth hitch through the bigger of the two holes on the bottom. here is a photo.

Where are you seeing the 60” Amsteel adjustable loop?


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[Seekbigger]

I’ve used tons of climbing methods myself, this year I’m going in with the srt method, garda foot loop with the longhorn agile, for srt this is really fast, quiet and easy for me. I will be climbing some one sticking on public land and JRB double rope technique some as well. How many of you guys climbing srt are using 8mm rope like restec or oplux?

 

[Brocky]

If you want to order it, you need to message the Amsteel guy on his Etsy site and special order it. I paid extra because obviously it’s over twice the size. It’s attached to the CT roll just like in this video at the 2:30 mark.

I have a girth hitch through the bigger of the two holes on the bottom. here is a photo.

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Using a foot ascender with the above would give you the Frog rope walking system, much easier to ascend than the sit-stand method most seem to be using.

 

[Kevin2]

After getting the Amsteel guys 60” adjustable foot loop, which I also extended the tubing to 12 inches[Both special order items], and putting the Madrock safeguard on my set up with the CT roll, I can’t imagine it being much easier. Light years easier than the other two ways that I’ve tried. I am just too crippled to do it without the foot loop, Madrock safeguard, and the CY Roll.

With that said, I looked at the foot ascenders. If this wouldn’t have been so easy, I probably would’ve got one to try.

I was out in my yard today using the whole set up, super smooth. Just like the guy in this video below. Although coming down, I still don’t like the safeguard. I much prefer coming down with a month or hitch. So, I practiced a few times today tying the JRB Longhorn agile hitch on, and then using that in conjunction with the Munter hitch to repel down. Smooth, and I feel much safer.

Using a foot ascender with the above would give you the Frog rope walking system, much easier to ascend than the sit-stand method most seem to be using.

 

[Oklahoma33]

If you want to order it, you need to message the Amsteel guy on his Etsy site and special order it. I paid extra because obviously it’s over twice the size. It’s attached to the CT roll just like in this video at the 2:30 mark.

I have a girth hitch through the bigger of the two holes on the bottom. here is a photo.

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If I’m 6’8” would I need a longer loop?


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[Kevin2]

I’m only 5’11”, so I would think so. I found some nylon flat webbing in my garage, and I used it to give me an idea how much I needed. The stuff I used was from a strap that I used to fasten my kayaks to my roof of my minivan! Anyways, you could always order a longer Version of the elevaider SS. But, I would either practice, or order a longer one. It is adjustable all the way down to 10 AM. So it can’t be too long, only can be too short I would think.

If I’m 6’8” would I need a longer loop?


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[Oklahoma33]

Is there any way to have redundancy while ascending?


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[Kevin2]

Is there any way to have redundancy while ascending?


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The fact that you have your self connected to the line on your bridge, and above on the ascender, seems like redundancy right there. I was originally running it with a long horn agile hitch connected to the bridge, and then the CT roll above it, again redundancy. if you have a second bridge, which I do, you could probably connected somehow to both bridges. That might get messy though.

 

[Brocky]

Two separate ropes and hitches, or devices, for true redundancy. Tower workers and the like are required to have two separate systems. Arborists in the UK and some European countries are now required to have two attachments to the tree, with one always able to reach the ground.

 

[skyjacker]

Is there any way to have redundancy while ascending?


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Yes, but it depends on what you want to make redundant?