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Buckleless webbing attachment for steps with versabutton?

Stickman

Stickman

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I've seen a few YouTube videos on using the straps only (buckles removed) to fasten sticks with a versa button to the tree. One referenced LWCG site for a video but I cannot find it anywhere. Does anyone have experience with this technique? Is it secure with 100% confidence. Video for proper technique?

Thanks.
 
I know that this will be the single dumbest question in the history of inquisitive idiots with internet access, but what straps are used for this?
 
Sgt. Beardface said:
I know that this will be the single dumbest question in the history of inquisitive idiots with internet access, but what straps are used for this?
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Any strap that has a sewn eye and a reasonable breaking strength. Do you have a hawk helium strap hanging around? You can pull the end not sewn into the buckle, free from buckle and use it.

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Matt Garing (sp?) of OOAL Manufacturing has a good video on his youtube channel on this excellent technique. He uses the 5/8" mini straps that you can get with the Shikars. I used them with this technique at the beginning of the season (until I started one sticking with my muddy pro with the cam cleat) and they all held well and solidly. As stated above any climb rated strap with a sewn eye should work.
 
Here's a video on the Shikar but it goes over the buckleless system right away with their 5/8" mini strap. Works great!!

 
I’ve used the hawk helium straps. They are a little short but plenty secure. On average more secure than a daisy chain.
 
EricS said:
I’ve used the hawk helium straps. They are a little short but plenty secure. On average more secure than a daisy chain.
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They seem short but I have yet to choose a tree that I couldn’t get the sticks on with this method. Even some fatty test trees, beyond the size I would hunt from made it.

To OP: been using this method for a year or so since Nutterbuster posted that video. I’ve placed a stick countless times and never had an issue. I can’t say the same about daisy chains. This method gets an A+ from me.
 
pesqimon said:
They seem short but I have yet to choose a tree that I couldn’t get the sticks on with this method. Even some fatty test trees, beyond the size I would hunt from made it.

To OP: been using this method for a year or so since Nutterbuster posted that video. I’ve placed a stick countless times and never had an issue. I can’t say the same about daisy chains. This method gets an A+ from me.
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I’ve got three 8’ daisy chains on my hawk minis. On my fourth I use the buckleless strap. Only once this year did I hunt a tree too big for it. I was able to use it as my top stick but could only get one wrap on the versa button.
 
woodsdog2 said:
Matt Garing (sp?) of OOAL Manufacturing has a good video on his youtube channel on this excellent technique. He uses the 5/8" mini straps that you can get with the Shikars. I used them with this technique at the beginning of the season (until I started one sticking with my muddy pro with the cam cleat) and they all held well and solidly. As stated above any climb rated strap with a sewn eye should work.
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OOAL?
 
I used sticks for several years with the exact method that Nutterbuster shows in that video. Never had any issues at all
 
Stickman said:
I've seen a few YouTube videos on using the straps only (buckles removed) to fasten sticks with a versa button to the tree. One referenced LWCG site for a video but I cannot find it anywhere. Does anyone have experience with this technique? Is it secure with 100% confidence. Video for proper technique?

Thanks.
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I’ve used the buckless method for 2 years on hawk helium’s now problem
 
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You'll need to be able to sew a loop as I'm not sure how well this stuff would do knotted, but it's strong and weighs nothing and is the best I've found for the buckleless method. I actually prefer using this over rope or cam cleats or anything else if I'm using multiple sticks.
 
I’m using the strap at the link below.
Im using on my “one-stick” 14” lone Wolf stick with an angled scout on top and a double step with a 3 step aider on bottom. No issues so far with it.


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Daisy Chain Webbing

1″ polyester woven daisy chain that is very similar to the original Dutchware woven daisy chain sold at beginning of 2019. These straps are green/brown reversible and are available in 6.5&#82…
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Here’s the setup I’m using it on.

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Would 5/8" webbing work? If so, any resources where I can buy the right strength?
 
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