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Confession one stick

enkriss said:
No it’s not…lol

The guys using spurs sure aren’t abiding by OSHA guidelines….
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Right
And the guys that climb trees with their bare hands with no ropes at all might not be as safe as one-stickers. :rolleyes:

For the record, I climbed trees and hunted from trees my whole life and never once tied off until I started this saddle stuff.
 
Tree hunter said:
I tried.
I m not a fan of one stick,for me.

I really like my spikes and feel much more comfortable with them.
And just don’t care for sticks. So what do I do . Just find places where I can use my spikes. Or a climber - - ugh !
Anybody else have the same feelings ?
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There are several packable options such as strap on steps, SRT or Ddrt climbing (my personal preference) multiple climbing sticks would still weigh less than a climber, and the infamous 2 tether climb. If you hunt heavy conifer or pine areas, 2 TC or strap on steps are a great option. I love climbing on ropes for most other trees. Or if you have an old away facing climber, some have used the seat and strap of their climber as a climbing platform in conjunction with their tether and saddle. I haven’t personally tried this method but have heard stories of it.
 
bodark said:
one sticking is the most dangerous way to climb a tree and for a forum as safety conscious as this one is (or used to be) I have yet to grasp how it is is constantly promoted. If I had the option of one sticking or staying at home I would never take my pajamas off.
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I don't agree with this statement. While there are other aspects of 1 sticking that I think are not as good as other methods. I feel safety wise its one of the more secured, DONE CORRECTLY. I think SRT would be my go to if I am able to preset (someday). But I had climbers try to take my life before so each their own I guess.

But again....there is always bucket.
 
As a sick man with the disease of never give up . I’m going to make one sticking work. I have places I can’t use my spikes ( my favorite) and I have my stick stuff, I must say the repelling part is a blast. Stay tune. Thanks again for all the great ideas.
 
I think it's important to recognize if you don't feel safe doing something, don't do it. Self doubt and nervousness back in the woods don't seem to go together. Always be sure of what your doing, but not over confident that you become to comfortable and skip a safety step. So if it feels dangerous in the back yard, it's not gonna be any better in the woods.
 
I like it less stuff carry into the woods, once I got the hang of it. I use a lineman belt when I climb.I got ahold of that Catalyst Ion, it with a ring of steps works good.I'm old so the less wight on my back the better. The older I get the steeper these hills get.
 
enkriss said:
No it’s not…lol

The guys using spurs sure aren’t abiding by OSHA guidelines….
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People climbing via one stick aren’t using the manufacturer’s guidelines :sweatsmile: besides there is no “osha” for recreational tree climbing.
 
enkriss said:
I like one sticking. It’s my preferred method.

multiple sticks is runner up but I hate managing multiple sticks.

I absolutely hate Spurs…. I had to climb poles for work. I hate it.
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It wasn’t the climbing that bothered me, it was the journeymen sitting in the truck just watching lol and then having to stay at height unbolting insulators or transformer brackets… Thank God for bucket trucks and boons! I don’t take a stance for or against one sticking but of the methods of climbing I have seen, it’s the one that introduces the most slack into your system making it more likely to hurt you IF a fall occurred. I think that’s what people mean when they say it’s dangerous. In an ideal world, equipment would never fail and then falls won’t occur. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world. All climbing methods come with risks though
 
enkriss said:
no one here is using “manufactures guidelines” bud… regardless of climbing method.
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Hence my laughing about OSHA lol I don’t disagree with you. I just laugh at the thought of OSHA investigating how hunters climb trees. They would have a fit conniption at the volume of paperwork and write ups they would be doing
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
It wasn’t the climbing that bothered me, it was the journeymen sitting in the truck just watching lol and then having to stay at height unbolting insulators or transformer brackets… Thank God for bucket trucks and boons! I don’t take a stance for or against one sticking but of the methods of climbing I have seen, it’s the one that introduces the most slack into your system making it more likely to hurt you IF a fall occurred. I think that’s what people mean when they say it’s dangerous. In an ideal world, equipment would never fail and then falls won’t occur. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world. All climbing methods come with risks though
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i've been wondering about this for a while but never want to test it- the slack in your tether argument against one sticking safety- if we compare it to multi sticking, which typically is done with a LB only, no tether, wouldn't the potential for a fall of a few feet onto a tether be preferrable to the possibility of the 20 foot fall with LB (again, assuming worst case scnario where the user doesn't know to push away from the tree or something and falls all the way)?
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
It wasn’t the climbing that bothered me, it was the journeymen sitting in the truck just watching lol and then having to stay at height unbolting insulators or transformer brackets… Thank God for bucket trucks and boons! I don’t take a stance for or against one sticking but of the methods of climbing I have seen, it’s the one that introduces the most slack into your system making it more likely to hurt you IF a fall occurred. I think that’s what people mean when they say it’s dangerous. In an ideal world, equipment would never fail and then falls won’t occur. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world. All climbing methods come with risks though
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I gaffed out before and slide about 5-6’ with the linemans. That was painful and I never want to do that again. I feel safer one sticking than spiking up a pole.
 
HuumanCreed said:
I don't agree with this statement. While there are other aspects of 1 sticking that I think are not as good as other methods. I feel safety wise its one of the more secured, DONE CORRECTLY. I think SRT would be my go to if I am able to preset (someday). But I had climbers try to take my life before so each their own I guess.

But again....there is always bucket.
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I totally agree! My issue is I'm old and fat and have a difficult time hanging from my saddle, trying to pull the stick up, and pulling the rope from the cleat. Probably if I practiced more it wouldn't be a problem for me.
 
In my opinion, the problem most guys have with one sticking, is that they try to take "too big of a bite."

All the how-to videos out there show someone trying to maximize the height gained with each move, which I understand...

... But in doing so, it makes the process physically more difficult, reaching down as far as possible and then up as far as possible.

Once you find the sweet spot of height gained vs. effort, and learn to incorporate your LB...it can be very safe, quiet, and efficient.
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Hence my laughing about OSHA lol I don’t disagree with you. I just laugh at the thought of OSHA investigating how hunters climb trees. They would have a fit conniption at the volume of paperwork and write ups they would be doing
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I laugh at ANYONE from the govt leaving their desk and hiking three miles in to watch someone climb a tree. Except ,Albert a game warden that decides to check your license at dusk!
 
I feel much safer one sticking than using climbing sticks. If you use a LB before you attach your tether and then move your tether as you climb you are not going to fall far. I always felt that the most likely cause of a severe injury would be from falling with my LB on and impaling myself on the stick below. I also would much rather rappel out a tree than climb down sticks in the dark.
 
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