Confession one stick

[mtsrunner]

Just when ya think ya know a guy……

Hahaha. Like I said, subject to change…weekly.
I think I’m a serial tinkerer. I can’t leave well enough alone.

 

[Noonespecial]

I tried.
I m not a fan of one stick,for me.

I really like my spikes and feel much more comfortable with them.
And just don’t care for sticks. So what do I do . Just find places where I can use my spikes. Or a climber - - ugh !
Anybody else have the same feelings ?

Don’t you do any presets? I think this whole mobile hang and hunt thing is overrated. I rarely shoot a deer from a tree I just found and hunted from the first time during the season. I have a set of Beast sticks all stealth stripped up but have never used them. Public land I use preset climbing sticks and private screw in steps. You can’t beat having several trees ready to go way before the season starts.

 

[woodsdog2]

I really, really like one sticking and went to it because I hated carrying in multiple sticks and the time it took to pull them apart, hang them on your sides, put them back together.... etc. it just was a lot of monkeying around for me. I can carry less metal in the woods and have my platform and stick all together. Very lightweight and allows me to pack more layers or whatever. Its just like saddle hunting. My saddles have been mostly very comfortable to hunt in and I enjoy saddlehunting immensely; however, a climber is still way more comfortable once you're at the tree. Haven't used a climber in 3 or 4 years maybe longer now but I have used legacy location ladder stands and those are also pretty comfortable. But, when the pressure starts to mount up and I'm not seeing stuff anymore, I like to employ the saddle systems in the harder to reach and less pressured spots and to me, the one stick and rappel down method has the most benefits over disadvantages in my analysis. You're mobile, quiet and still able to safely and securely climb and descend most trees. To me, its the very best method going because it somewhat capitalizes on the advantages of many different kinds of climbing methods.

 

[dalton916]

Precisely.

 

[sb220]

onesticking really shines with a climbing harness/belay loop for climbing/rappelling and a sit drag(or any saddle) worn outside the climbing rig for linemans belt and hunting tether. If you are trying to one stick with only a saddle and linesman loops, i can imagine the pain

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[2Sloe]

onesticking really shines with a climbing harness/belay loop for climbing/rappelling and a sit drag(or any saddle) worn outside the climbing rig for linemans belt and hunting tether. If you are trying to one stick with only a saddle and linesman loops, i can imagine the pain

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Maybe I’m just not following your logic, but when I look at that climbing harness it‘s a waist belt, two leg loops and a belay loop. If you look at any saddle, it’s a waist belt, two leg loops, a bridge (belay loop) with the additional capability of the lineman’s loops built in. For me one sticking is about weight reduction so wearing two when I only need one seems redundant.

 

[sb220]

Maybe I’m just not following your logic, but when I look at that climbing harness it‘s a waist belt, two leg loops and a belay loop. If you look at any saddle, it’s a waist belt, two leg loops, a bridge (belay loop) with the additional capability of the lineman’s loops built in. For me one sticking is about weight reduction so wearing two when I only need one seems redundant.

a bridge for a saddle isnt a belay loop. a belay loop supports the leg loops so you are in a comfortable sitting position when hanging from a vertical position. lineman loops do not...you have to lean away from the tree to get comfortable.

Saddle leg loops arent really supported by any of the connection loops. theyre just there to catch you in the crotch if you fall

 

[Islandshooter]

a bridge for a saddle isnt a belay loop. a belay loop supports the leg loops so you are in a comfortable sitting position when hanging from a vertical position. lineman loops do not...you have to lean away from the tree to get comfortable.

Saddle leg loops arent really supported by any of the connection loops. theyre just there to catch you in the crotch if you fall

i did the climbing harness with diy linesman loops for years before i found saddles. No way am i going back to that when my saddles are built With loops designed for climbing (hence the name…linesman loops). Use what you want, climb how you want, shoot what you want…its a great country huh?!

 

[2Sloe]

a bridge for a saddle isnt a belay loop. a belay loop supports the leg loops so you are in a comfortable sitting position when hanging from a vertical position. lineman loops do not...you have to lean away from the tree to get comfortable.

Saddle leg loops arent really supported by any of the connection loops. theyre just there to catch you in the crotch if you fall

Ok, so when I zoom in on the harness I can see that and now fully understand your logic. I’ve seen a few folks talk about using this setup with a fleece saddle. For me climbing the tree is only 15 min of the 5 hour hunt so I’m not sure having two systems vs one would be worth the effort. But hey, that’s why there are so many options available now. Every option has it fans. Great time to be saddle hunting with so many options available to fit everyones preferences. Thanks for sharing and good luck!

 

[sb220]

Ok, so when I zoom in on the harness I can see that and now fully understand your logic. I’ve seen a few folks talk about using this setup with a fleece saddle. For me climbing the tree is only 15 min of the 5 hour hunt so I’m not sure having two systems vs one would be worth the effort. But hey, that’s why there are so many options available now. Every option has it fans. Great time to be saddle hunting with so many options available to fit everyones preferences. Thanks for sharing and good luck!

its not really two two systems....kind of like saying your pants and belt are two systems.

30 ft in a take your time five minutes

 

[Islandshooter]

its not really two two systems....kind of like saying your pants and belt are two systems.

30 ft in a take your time five minutes

5 minutes, OMG-thats waaay too long. Just kidding!!! Who cares as long as you’re safe. Looks like a good system. Good lucj

 

[Chopper070]

Same. I’ve always preferred spurs and now that I also repel… I love the method even more.

one sticking is noisy.

but it is legal everywhere so… I’ll probably add it next year

This will be my first season in a saddle and have decided to one stick. I have practiced a little bit in the yard and put some stealth strips on it to reduce any clanking noise. I did my first full hunting height climb today in the woods and shot a quiver of arrows (my feet were probably 25’ up). I found the noise to be pretty minimal, though it definitely depends on how rough the tree bark is. There are videos online to quiet the cam cleat, but I find if I put my thumb on the cams when removing the rope, there is no noise.

Also, another user mentioned it being dangerous. There definitely is a dangerous transition when you have to stand up and raise your rope with slack in it. So today I tried using my linesman‘s all way up in addition to the climbing rope. It added a little time, but I felt much more secure. The whole process took about an hour to be fully ready to hunt…. all gear hung and packed away, as well as two wild edge steps tied on for a ring of steps. I’m sure I can cut that time and a half with practice

 

[Chopper070]

It wasn’t the climbing that bothered me, it was the journeymen sitting in the truck just watching lol and then having to stay at height unbolting insulators or transformer brackets… Thank God for bucket trucks and boons! I don’t take a stance for or against one sticking but of the methods of climbing I have seen, it’s the one that introduces the most slack into your system making it more likely to hurt you IF a fall occurred. I think that’s what people mean when they say it’s dangerous. In an ideal world, equipment would never fail and then falls won’t occur. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world. All climbing methods come with risks though

This is my first year trying one sticking. Today I tried using a linesman‘s belt the entire way up in addition to the climbing rope. That kept the slack out of the system and made it feel much more secure. The time it added was definitely worth it

 

[Chopper070]

Maybe I’m just not following your logic, but when I look at that climbing harness it‘s a waist belt, two leg loops and a belay loop. If you look at any saddle, it’s a waist belt, two leg loops, a bridge (belay loop) with the additional capability of the lineman’s loops built in. For me one sticking is about weight reduction so wearing two when I only need one seems redundant.

onesticking really shines with a climbing harness/belay loop for climbing/rappelling and a sit drag(or any saddle) worn outside the climbing rig for linemans belt and hunting tether. If you are trying to one stick with only a saddle and linesman loops, i can imagine the pain

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A 2 panel saddle is extremely comfortable for one sticking