I've never received any notice back from all of mine, Pos or Neg! How long are we supposed to keep it before they let us know? I'm not even sure they get tested at all. Not really sure I want to do jerky this year!
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CWD and what I should know about it
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As big of a deal as CWD is, if you had one test positive, they would contact you. They will want to know exactly where they were shot. At least that is how it has been here.
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If I was concerned, I would call and ask them. I'd bother the heck out of them and go up there if I needed. If they are supposed to be monitoring for this and asking for samples, then I'd hold them to it.
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We've had CWD present in our herd here for years. There's a randomly selected testing program during rifle season but no testing program unless we hunters voluntarily pay for and send them off on our own during archery and muzzleloader seasons.
I'm wondering how many are slipping through the cracks as compared to states that have a more aggressive approach to CWD testing?
We eat a lot of venison and as far as I know I've never had an issue and have only had a few tested during rifle season which were negative. All this being said, I don't think anyone has a full grasp on the situation as has been said numerous times.
If there isn't an imminent threat it seems like some of this research gets put on the back burner or funding falls short to cover the research. Another angle to look at is, how do you ethically get someone to willingly infect themselves with a potentially mortal disease? It might mean CJD diseases will be/are monitored closer as it relates to hunters or persons consuming potentially CWD infected venison as seen in the referred publication.
For me and my family, I'll probably start getting all deer harvested CWD tested and comply with my state's recommendation of disposing of any animals testing positive for CWD. I don't think a proactive approach will interfere with my hunting enjoyment or is necessarily a detriment. I'll just have to include a couple more steps processing and spend a little money out of pocket for the test until hopefully someday our state implements a more aggressive testing program that I don't have to pay for during archery and muzzleloader seasons.
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We don’t know anything for sure, the article posted is the first faint clue that I am aware of, that human transmission is possible. If I lived in a CWD area I would only eat venison that had been tested, just my personal weighing of the upsides vs the downsides. I don’t have a spare brain if I start getting holes in this one.
The negative impact of humans on the biosphere increases each year. CWD hits a particular nerve for me “yeah that #1 passion of yours, that animal you think about 365 days a year, we’ll ruin that whole scene too.” CWD is teeny tiny, silent, and insidious.
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It showed up here in parts of the state I havent and dont hunt so I havent had any tested. The area is spreading though and is getting closer to one of my main hunting areas. At some point probably in the not too distant future, we will have to start testing.
I called the DOW and they said all of the deer heads submitted for testing are tested and if you hear nothing from them, they were negative! I found that Ohio Dept of Agg charges $83 to test your deer if you don't want to wait on the Div of Wildlife
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Here is some real and relevant data...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Chronic Wasting Disease Agents in Nonhuman Primates
Chronic wasting disease is a prion disease of cervids. Assessment of its zoonotic potential is critical. To evaluate primate susceptibility, we tested monkeys from 2 genera. We found that 100% of intracerebrally inoculated and 92% of orally inoculated ...
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It's in the northern part of my state and fortunately I just hunt the southern part. When it arrives in my hunting area, I will test deer before I eat them.
There's a lot of details I would have to figure out though. Do I throw away my knives and other processing equipment if I've processed a deer that comes back positive?
How bad would infection rates get? If it's a 50/50 chance that any deer I get is infected and I'm just going to have to discard it, is it worth it for me to still hunt?
It sucks, but it's just how it goes. I also try to step back and check myself for desired state bias. Am I disregarding information just because I don't like what it would mean?
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There's a lot of details I would have to figure out though. Do I throw away my knives and other processing equipment if I've processed a deer that comes back positive?
How bad would infection rates get? If it's a 50/50 chance that any deer I get is infected and I'm just going to have to discard it, is it worth it for me to still hunt?
It sucks, but it's just how it goes. I also try to step back and check myself for desired state bias. Am I disregarding information just because I don't like what it would mean?
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There's data that shows a strong 40/60 bleach/water solution inactivates the prions after a 4 minute soak.
Household Bleach Inactivates Chronic Wasting Disease Prions
Strategy Appears Feasible for Decontaminating Hunting, Meat Processing Equipment.
That made me think about an important issue. Just because a deer is positive or CWD does not mean it will appear sick. They can carry it for some time before they become sick enough to show signs.There's data that shows a strong 40/60 bleach/water solution inactivates the prions after a 4 minute soak.
Household Bleach Inactivates Chronic Wasting Disease Prions
Strategy Appears Feasible for Decontaminating Hunting, Meat Processing Equipment.www.nih.gov
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It's a bad deal for sure but we just have to adapt and overcome. One of my biggest questions and concerns is how areas will handle commercial deer processing.
Our state already recommends disposing of CWD contaminated meat. As of right now, it takes weeks to get CWD test results back. The deer most likely is already at the processor in the "meat bin" potentially mixing with everyone else's tested or untested meat. Will these processors take the precautions to disinfect their equipment between each animal if in fact they process each deer separately?
It might be a strong argument to process your own in CWD areas so you can isolate each animal.
Our state already recommends disposing of CWD contaminated meat. As of right now, it takes weeks to get CWD test results back. The deer most likely is already at the processor in the "meat bin" potentially mixing with everyone else's tested or untested meat. Will these processors take the precautions to disinfect their equipment between each animal if in fact they process each deer separately?
It might be a strong argument to process your own in CWD areas so you can isolate each animal.
I wouldn't expect a commercial processor to clean everything between deer. Think about how much hassle it would be to disassemble, clean, amd reassemble a grinder.
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Ugh you just proved my “only more bad news” point. It’s not in our area (NE Ohio), so I hadn’t thought too much about it, but had never even considered this. Sheesh.
I heard a podcast with someone (can't recall who and I thought it might have come from here) that there are no actual photos of the prions and that they don't actually exist. But instead, CWD is a nutrient deficiency. I'll look for the podcast.
With that said, I am still in the belief that if a deer tests positive, it's not something I am willing to eat. It's in my state now but not confirmed in the areas I hunt so I will have to keep an eye out until it shows up.
Does anyone know if testing exists in maryland for CWD?
With that said, I am still in the belief that if a deer tests positive, it's not something I am willing to eat. It's in my state now but not confirmed in the areas I hunt so I will have to keep an eye out until it shows up.
Does anyone know if testing exists in maryland for CWD?
Sat through a presentation by our AGFC state vet and she showed slides of normal vs infected proteins and explained in detail many aspects of CWD.
Probably the most mature CWD conversation I’ve seen on the internet in a while.
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University of Minnesota developed a kit that can test meat samples (not necessarily lymph nodes, brain or spine tissue) making testing already processed meat a possibility but they are a bit pricey.
www.priogen.store
Check with your state's college or university veterinarian lab in areas with CWD and they probably have a plan in place to test either free or at a cost to you.
CWD Venison Test Kit
If you are curious about the CWD status of a deer you just harvested or the one in the freezer from last season, Priogen has your answer with a first of its kind CWD test available to the public. Current CWD testing options through state agencies or laboratories rely on samples such as lymph...
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Check with your state's college or university veterinarian lab in areas with CWD and they probably have a plan in place to test either free or at a cost to you.
@Yimmyb60 I’m just outside the cwd zone in MD but hunt a little just into it. I’ve called several offices at dnr and got answers from “call the national CDC” to shrugs to “we’ll get back to you”, which they never have. I’m very disappointed in how our DNR has handled this. They don’t even tell the %of infections, just the number of positive cases found in an area. VA has many options for testing but it seems MD is way behind the ball on this. Hopefully something comes up soon and we have a way to get some voluntary testing done.