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Examples of dangerous carabiner loading

Aeds151 said:
Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Wait, seriously?
 
Aeds151 said:
Super serio


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I didn’t know anyone was Not girth-hitching. Let’s get a climbing instructor or arborist or pro climber who depends on these things for more than just venison-driven life-support, to chime in on that scenario for us. Any takers?
 
Solid information! Only takes a moment to mess up and another moment to realize your on the ground
 
Thanks for posting. After last night, this reminded me to go home and hit my kong D-Link with lubricant to take out the squeal when twisting gate open/closed.


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Aeds151 said:
Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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It seems that the example on the website would be "Multidirectional Loading" for the scenario you are talking about.
 
Aeds151 said:
Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Hopefully that’s not happening. I haven’t seen any examples on this forum, YouTube, etc.


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weekender21 said:
Hopefully that’s not happening. I haven’t seen any examples on this forum, YouTube, etc.
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I think someone addressed it a while back when this thread first started... they recommended using one of the triangle shaped screw links which may be more suited for multidirectional loading. I am not an expert but I remember someone posting about it in another thread.
 
I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?
 
DB4x4 said:
I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?
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That’s the only way to safely girth-hitch with a “carabiner”. That tri-link is designed for cross-loading, BUT I honestly don’t think it’s safer than a rope eye, or much faster. JMHO.
 
DelaWhere_Arrow said:
That’s the only way to safely girth-hitch with a “carabiner”. That tri-link is designed for cross-loading, BUT I honestly don’t think it’s safer than a rope eye, or much faster. JMHO.
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It’s not meant to be safer or faster. It’s to assist in getting the rope down easily, without the girth hitch getting in a bind.

DB4x4 said:
I've seen some folks using the triangle shaped quick link on the loop end of their tether. Does this quick link not get side loaded like a carabiner would?
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Delta links or oval links for this purpose are steel, and can withstand those conditions.
 
I think it would be faster if I was one sticking with a 30' piece of rope as my tether for rappel purposes and needed to go around a branch, no?

Is that a safe/useful application for a triangle quick link?
 
I have been wondering about being able to use a carabiner or something like it to safely girth hitch your tether. What is the way to do so safely with what specific equipment? Would like to try 1 stick and repelling so will have a 30ft tether I would like to easily move above a branch and retrieve once I'm on the ground.
 
Aeds151 said:
Which one of these examples occur when you use a carabiner to attach to your tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching. I am afraid a lot of folks use a carabiner instead of taking the time to thread the rope and attachments through a knotted loop or the spliced eye.


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Why wouldn't this work? [..using a carabiner to attach to my tether as it comes around the tree instead of girth hitching..]

I think I've read of others using a carabiner successfully; is that just out of spec? I'm using 25' Sterling HTP 9 MM as a rappel line and tether.
 
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