Have you tried just coming back down 2TC in reverse? It’s so easy that I am considering not rappelling anymore. I can be back down the tree from hunting height in about the same time and have a lot less gear to mess with. I still have other ways to get down the tree in an emergency, though.
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Figure of 8 progress capture???
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Have you tried just coming back down 2TC in reverse? It’s so easy that I am considering not rappelling anymore. I can be back down the tree from hunting height in about the same time and have a lot less gear to mess with. I still have other ways to get down the tree in an emergency, though.
MNFarmHunter
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Yep, I've had to do the climb-o-shame a few times because I didn't set something right on my SRT rope. You're correct that you can 2TC down about as easy but it's not as fun. That's the nice thing about 2TC. It's versatile enough that I could climb sticks using the same ropes or backup my SRT using the same ropes.
I've been reading about and watching a lot of 2TC lately and I'm probably gonna be trying it soon.
Rappelling down still gets my vote. Especially on trees with limbs!
Rappelling down still gets my vote. Especially on trees with limbs!
FrankNess14
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I’m struggling with this now…is it worth carrying the rappel rope and sundries when 2TC works so well…
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Definitely agree with that. I will rappel if the tree has limbs. If it has several limbs, I will SRT and rappel.
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I am having the same dilemma. I am thinking about just carrying an ultralight rappel kit, but I wouldn’t use it it unless it was a real emergency.
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I'm one-sticking so rappelling down is definitely the way to go.
I don't think I'd switch to 2TC I just wanna try it and learn it in case all four of my sticks break. lol
No, I just want to try it that's all...
I don't think I'd switch to 2TC I just wanna try it and learn it in case all four of my sticks break. lol
No, I just want to try it that's all...
I just wanted to try it, too. I didn’t there was any chance I would prefer it over SRT, bolts or LWHC. I was wrong. It does take some practice. I sucked at it at first.
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Are you thigh looping or not
I tried both ways. No thigh loop was fine for me. It’s not that the thigh loop was bad, but I just don’t need it.
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MNFarmHunter
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From the videos I've watched, I think the thigh strap is for those who try and climb as high as possible per evolution. Taking it just a bit slower, you don't need it and may even be faster.
I will be one stick/repelling this season. I can clearly see that a backup is not really necessary when using the figure 8. I think having a backup will just make me feel better though. That being said In this picture you haven't added the 2nd carabineer yet. Is there any down fall to hooking the backup into the main carabineer as pictured? I'm not sure I want a second carabineer potentially clanging against my main one. If safety is your reason for two carabineers then the noise factor will need to be addressed for me, maybe plenty of stealth stripping on both bineers.
Here is my setup
I’m using unloaded prusik knot for backup and your setup to hold me when I take off my one stick
Works great !!
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In this picture it was one of the first times I tried it with a backup.
The reason I later decided to use 2 carabiners was when one sticking I didn’t need the figure 8 on my rope yet while climbing.
For me once at hunting height and ready to rapell back down I would place the figure 8 on the rope with it’s own carabiner that way I don’t have to open my carabiner that’s currently holding me.
Yes you could apply stealth strips or other forms of silence material if you choose to.
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FrankNess14
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I think I want to try this setting up the rope on the figure 8 opposite the normal method. Using [mention]phatkaw [/mention] method, it causes the tail of the rope to come off the left side of the 8 and has caused me to use both hands to feed rope thru the 8 (because I’m not smart enough to move my rope to the left side since it’s always been on my right….)
Y’all see any issues with that?
I am having to feed my C-IV into the 8 to get it to descend with the first wrap around the 8, which I don’t necessarily mind. Makes me slow down on the descent even when I want to go all Ricky Bobby
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Y’all see any issues with that?
I am having to feed my C-IV into the 8 to get it to descend with the first wrap around the 8, which I don’t necessarily mind. Makes me slow down on the descent even when I want to go all Ricky Bobby
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Yes, nothing really to it. I am lazy though so I would just throw my sticks down to the ground as I lowered. Rappelling is arguably safer; however, I found that I could descend the tree very quickly the normal way with a linemans belt. I would often prefer to do traditional descent instead of hooking my rappel rope up. I almost exclusively one stick climb now so this is a thing of the past.
Im using a two step movable aider so its kind sketchy when coming down in the dark. Also, when there are limbs coming down the linemans is a pain. Was thinking of just using a rappel rope as my tether, but maybe this isn't something you are supposed to do? Any comments would be helpful as I'm new to this.
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Yea if you are using a 2-step removal aider being constantly attached to a rappel rope is going to be so much safer. I would recommend it. If you use rescue tech, oplux, or ultra tech (8mm ropes), it wont cost you much space or weight either.
Hall17
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Yes I use sticks and rappel down. I also use a 2 step aider and feel rappelling down is a lot safer. I don't drop my sticks but just hook them on my kydex hooks and down I go.