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First climb hunting with stepps and 5 step aider.

JaredG16 said:
Not following ya. What are you talking about?

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welding a solid bar to thin wall tubing can have issues. When the area is loaded it results in a bar with weld around it and a tube with a hole matching the weld. He is saying be cautious about this area unless the tube is drilled through to support the rod and the weld just keeps it in place. Its likely that if you did a drop test on one of these steps, that is where it would break assuming you had the load applied there.
 
kenn1320 said:
welding a solid bar to thin wall tubing can have issues. When the area is loaded it results in a bar with weld around it and a tube with a hole matching the weld. He is saying be cautious about this area unless the tube is drilled through to support the rod and the weld just keeps it in place. Its likely that if you did a drop test on one of these steps, that is where it would break assuming you had the load applied there.
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I'm not welding anything to the steps at all. *Scratches head* now I'm even more confused as to what it is you are referring. Hehe

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JaredG16 said:
I'm not welding anything to the steps at all. *Scratches head* now I'm even more confused as to what it is you are referring. Hehe

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I just looked back and believe @Root is referring to the bar on the stepp.
 
Root said:
Unless the rod in the step goes all the way through the tubing I'd be looking it over often. I don't have one infront of me but the little rod welded to thin tubing is a recipe for a tear in the tube. Not trying to be a debbie downer, I'm just saying I'd keep an eye on it.
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So If I attach to the V... how is this not going to cause the step to twist toward the side that hook is attached to and there-by causing it to be unstable?
 
Yes I was referring to the bar that's welded across the step. I'm not saying you have to attach differently. I was just trying to say keep an eye on the tubing part of the step around where the rod is welded.
 
Rickster said:
So If I attach to the V... how is this not going to cause the step to twist toward the side that hook is attached to and there-by causing it to be unstable?
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It doesn't. I have attached aiders to both the the V and the crossbar many times. It's more stable on the v but the crossbar keeps your aider away from the tree. Try it. The aider pulls straight down.
 
Can anyone post a link to the aider they purchased? I can't find the exact one on Amazon from that Kailas company. Also, do they provide a weight rating for these steps?
 
Got mine in this morning and went to test it at lunch....definitely going to take some practice. Went up the first time and on the way down had a kick out on the third step which resulted in what I am sure was a very acrobatic maneuver. As I recall kinda felt like a suspended cart wheel! At least I know my new linesman's belt works.....think I will try it with my tether next time.
 
There are 2 keys to this method:
1. Setting the WE stepp really well - if the stepp ladder is super solid, that solves most of the problems you can encounter.
2. Using your lineman belt as part of the system, not just a fall catch. Lean back into it and really take your time.

Take your time and go slow. This is a great method for sure.
 
GCTerpfan said:
It doesn't. I have attached aiders to both the the V and the crossbar many times. It's more stable on the v but the crossbar keeps your aider away from the tree. Try it. The aider pulls straight down.
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If it is twisting, is it because the rope is too loose? Currently experiencing this issue but I'm new to rope steps too
 
christm said:
If it is twisting, is it because the rope is too loose? Currently experiencing this issue but I'm new to rope steps too
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Yes. When you get a solid cam on the step they are rock solid and won't twist. The more you use them the better you will get at getting a solid cam. I often cam them over, then un-cam them, tighten the rope slightly and cam them again. It only takes a couple of seconds and usually gets it rock solid.
 
g2outdoors said:
There are 2 keys to this method:
1. Setting the WE stepp really well - if the stepp ladder is super solid, that solves most of the problems you can encounter.
2. Using your lineman belt as part of the system, not just a fall catch. Lean back into it and really take your time.

Take your time and go slow. This is a great method for sure.
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Doesnt using the lineman belt per number 2 above change it to a climbing system and not a fall system? Its my understanding the looser your lineman belt, the less effective it is as a fall catch.
 
kenn1320 said:
Doesnt using the lineman belt per number 2 above change it to a climbing system and not a fall system? Its my understanding the looser your lineman belt, the less effective it is as a fall catch.
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I don't think so. You don't have to let a bunch of slack into your LB, just push back into it. It makes everything very stable.

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