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Grunt Call Success Rates?

have you had a grunt work?


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BTaylor

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I hardly ever blind call but have had pretty decent success calling to deer I could see. On public, I typically only use my voice because I believe it makes a difference. Natural voice isnt as loud and I think sounds more natural to a deer or at least sounds much different than all the calls most folks are blowing at them.
 
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elk yinzer

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Mixed bag. I rarely blind call but the few times I've done it can't recall it ever working.

When I see deer that aren't coming in I read their body language. If they look aggressive, you can grunt them in. If they are big and aggressive, you can snort wheeze them in. I've had both of those work. But if a buck is neutral they don't come in and sometimes they react negatively.

Also I've heard a lot of bucks grunt and most grunt tubes sound nothing like it. It's also a sound that doesn't carry very far in the woods, so blind calling by it's nature doesn't make sense when it comes to grunting.

Rattling has never done anything for me and I don't do it anymore.

I carried one of those bleat cans for a few years and pulled a small 8 point in on a string one time, and that was the only time it ever worked.
 

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My avatar buck came in on a string from rattling. He was chasing a doe back behind me and I tried everything in the book at him every time the woods got quiet (can call, bleat grunts, young buck grunts, mature buck grunts etc). Nothing worked until the rattling and I had to put them away fast, shot at 5 yards.
 
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avgjoe

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Yes, to all of the above. I'm typically conservative with calling. But on occasion I've thrown out hail mary's that worked, and blind called, and called at deer close by with success. I've also had deer take off like I shot them at the sound of a grunt, and I've had them completely ignore it. If you're around a bunch of people calling, you'll get no or not good response. But I've grunted up deer in texas, missouri, mississippi, louisiana, alabama, and florida.

The one thing that I think ends up sinking things, is they are deadly accurate with sound. They will walk right to your tree. And if they don't see a deer, that's gonna make em weird. I never grunt without my bow in my hand.

If a deer is working his way in range, I don't call. If a deer is out of range, or isn't coming to you anyway, what do you stand to lose by throwing a grunt out there?

I'm not as high on blind calling as others may be.
This has been my experience too. I've let bucks walk past and grunted them back, and I've grunted and had them take off. I generally only call as a last resort (a buck is walking away and showing no signs of coming back.)
 
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Kurt

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I just blind called a small spike in on Saturday. In Mass I hunt all public. This weekend I was in NY on private. The spike came in behind me and I wasn't able to get an arrow off. I like to hunt thicker cover, and the edges of thicker cover and vegetative transitions. Calling works better when the deer can't see very far because of the cover. Two years ago I called a 7pt up a hill for 70-80 yds. I killed him at 12yds. They are very good at locating the sound. I've heard several deer make vocalizations, mostly bucks trailing grunting. I killed my first saddle buck after I heard him grunting as he came in to a doe that I had hanging around my stand. In this instance I didn't call at all. The vocalizations I've heard are mostly very subtle. Some were quite loud but I prefer to keep it subtle. When I blind call I use higher pitched young buck grunt, it keeps from scaring off any younger bucks and does. For blind calling I like to think about a deer being just over the next ridge. I'll make subtle contact grunts, which are short in duration, and usually two to three grunt sequences. The response to this type of calling is exploratory. The deer come in looking to make contact with another deer. Once they get to you they are looking and they are alert. If you don't have good cover around you they'll come until they can use their other senses to figure out whats what. I've had them circle me down wind and I've had them hang up because they could see and didn't need to come closer. I've had the best luck setting up with some terrain feature that would make it difficult to catch me from down wind,( I'll hunt the down hill side of a bench, or I'll back up to a vegetative transition that will expose them to the more open timber if they try to sneak behind me). I rarely snort wheeze, it's aggressive and unless bucks are willing to fight for the right it doesn't seem to work well. I do call as part of a social scenario such as this; an immature buck contact grunts 2 to 3 subtle contact grunts, moments later (10-15 seconds a doe bleats back a short bleat), I'll wait 2 or 3 minutes looking 360 degrees, then I'll bleat a slightly longer doe bleat, not quite an estrous bleat, then I'll follow that up with a short contact grunt followed by a longer trailing grunt. I'll do some thing like that every 30 minutes or so. If it's super quiet in the woods I keep it to just a few contact grunts every 30 or 40 minutes. I think the two biggest things to being successful is keep it to a volume that a deer can hear from a hundred or so yards, if your buddy can hear you in the next stand it's to loud, and calling frequency. Deer are not singing as they walk through the woods, nor are they trying to talk to every deer in the woods.
If you can see the deer a short low volume contact grunt to start, watch for a response, if no response then a little louder but reasonable, if they don't seem to respond I'll use a long trailing grunt of 2 seconds, then a doe bleat pointed away from the buck. Some times no matter what you do they don't respond. It's not a miracle tool. But I won't in desperation start to blow crazy sequences because all that does is confirm to them that they made the right decision not to make contact. In every scenario I mentioned I've killed bucks calling them in. I've said it before I'll never go in to hunt without my trusty grunt tube and a doe bleat call.
 
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ThePennsylvanian

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Last year, I was hunting in early november, when a good buck came trotting across the field away from me, i didnt even notice him until he was 80-100 yards away. I let out a loud aggressive grunt and this joker did a 180° and was coming directly to my tree only to bust me drawing.... I was skylined from where he was.. but still he didnt stop to look for what he heard, he just turned mid stride and trotted in, I could see the hair on his back popping as he was getting closer.. it was awesome and terrible lol
 

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Curl that tube on the end and cup your hands around it and throw that call off to the side (helps a little).

Yeah, I always grunt to the side most opposite the direction of the deer when sight calling. Just seems, sometimes they give me a good angle, sometimes it's head on in and straight away.

In thicker cover they seem to work around me more. In timber they seem to take a more direct course. At least that's my experience. I've taken deer grunting in both, so I still find it worthwhile.
 

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To many factors to call it either way. Would say deers personality vary, and other factors contribute to there mood. I don't think you can get a definite yes or no. It's another tool in the bag. There is a time and place for everything.
 
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Kurt

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To many factors to call it either way. Would say deers personality vary, and other factors contribute to there mood. I don't think you can get a definite yes or no. It's another tool in the bag. There is a time and place for everything.
That's why I like to keep the calling low key. If it's not working you didn't blow up your spot with band music.
 
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Any one have success with calling on public land in a state with high pressure? I've always heard that high pressure and relatively few bucks means they won't respond.
 

Plebe

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That's why I like to keep the calling low key. If it's not working you didn't blow up your spot with band music.

Generally that's my approach, but I've had good responses from an aggressive approach too. E.g.:

- On public in MI, I grunted in the best buck I ever saw hunting in the state after getting pretty aggressive. The buck was working my way and I was keeping quiet when he started drifting away from me. It became clear to me that he was going to drop off the ridge and out of sight. He was such a big buck and I just didn't think I'd see him again so I started to grunt to him, soft at first but I just got louder and louder until he finally turned. It was dead calm and I've never grunted so loud, it was sheer desperation on my part.

Anyway, He walked almost to the base of my tree and stood there. After a little while, he turned directly away and walked off. He never gave me a good shot angle, but I brought him to the tree and gave myself a chance.

- Conversely, two years ago I saw a tall 8pt heading towards my brother's location and texted him to be ready. After some time he wrote back that he hadn't seen anything. I made the mistake of telling him that deer has to be nearby, I'd have seen him again otherwise, and suggested he might try grunting softly and see if he comes in. I never heard the grunt, but that buck bolted out of there like my brother stuck him...only he never even saw him.

I killed that buck later in the season from my brother's hunting location and during that hunt I saw the most cautious deer behavior from him that I've ever witnessed while hunting. He'd pause and scan his surroundings after every step. And I mean long pauses. I thought he'd never make it to me, but eventually he did. And no, I wasn't about to grunt at him, learned that lesson.
 
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Yeah, I always grunt to the side most opposite the direction of the deer when sight calling. Just seems, sometimes they give me a good angle, sometimes it's head on in and straight away.

In thicker cover they seem to work around me more. In timber they seem to take a more direct course. At least that's my experience. I've taken deer grunting in both, so I still find it worthwhile.
Problem is, a deers ears are so good, they can tell the call is coming from elevation as well. Im inclined to think turning the tube will help offset this problem, but not completely
 

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Problem is, a deers ears are so good, they can tell the call is coming from elevation as well. Im inclined to think turning the tube will help offset this problem, but not completely

I grunted in a small 4 point rutting last year. He walked from at least 50 yards off and looked directly at me in a tree 25 feet up with cover behind me and some in front. He was looking up even before he really had eyes on me, just scanning up high.
 

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Problem is, a deers ears are so good, they can tell the call is coming from elevation as well. Im inclined to think turning the tube will help offset this problem, but not completely

Could be. I'm not against giving it a try.

I don't recall any bucks I've called in looking up at me. Maybe once. But I do try to misdirect the deer as much as possible and that could help with that. The more searching the buck does, the better, from my experience. I'd rather they come into my area than come in to my setup.
 

Cotehex

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On heavily pressured deer I've seen it scare them off. I have used it with success on less pressured deer when I can see them. I don't like to blind call as this seems to make them come in downwind.
 

Kurt

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Problem is, a deers ears are so good, they can tell the call is coming from elevation as well. Im inclined to think turning the tube will help offset this problem, but not completely
If I have a buck I can see I'll blow the first one in his direction quiet, if he's coming in but then hangs up I blow down and away. I live and hunt in a hilly spot so I'm usually blowing off a bench or if on the bench then down the hill and away. The seven point I shot two years ago was set up just like that. I saw him down the hill I swung off the platform to get the tree in between us then I grunted right at him, he looked up but didn't commit and started feeding away and I hit him with a longer louder grunt to the bench behind me and he came right to the tree and then past going up to the bench. It helps if they can't see until they get into range. In his case he had to pass me to get on the bench so he could see.
 
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Bowmanmike

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I tried grunting a buck in that i watched for a while and he was going past me at 60 yds. He didnt care one bit about the grunt so i snort wheezed. Wow did that ever do the trick. He turned towards me immediately and came straight in to 20,looking for a fight. A little sapling saved his life when he finally turned...
 
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