I think what happens a lot is people call with to much volume and to low a tone. If your using a low grunt that identifies as a big bodied deer. I'm not trying to elicit an aggressive response I just want deer to think there are other deer in the area. I'll use more of a mature doe bleat and a young buck grunt. Nothing pisses off a mature deer then thinking that little squirt is courting my doe. But nobody wants to come in for a fight with godzilla buck, or try to get with a doe who is with a monster. Also on public they get called to a lot by folks who get all their calling info from you tube out in the mid west during the rut. I've never had any luck with that style of calling. I've never rattled a deer in either. They do say rattling works best pre rut but what I'm doing works well for me and I think the herd around here responds well to it.On heavily pressured deer I've seen it scare them off. I have used it with success on less pressured deer when I can see them. I don't like to blind call as this seems to make them come in downwind.
I'll have to try this as a last resort if I get a good one who won't come in to a normal sequence.I tried grunting a buck in that i watched for a while and he was going past me at 60 yds. He didnt care one bit about the grunt so i snort wheezed. Wow did that ever do the trick. He turned towards me immediately and came straight in to 20,looking for a fight. A little sapling saved his life when he finally turned...
I kill em with a call on heavily pressured WMA and the deer density in my area leaves a lot to be desired.Any one have success with calling on public land in a state with high pressure? I've always heard that high pressure and relatively few bucks means they won't respond.
This thread is making me excited.
It seems most success happens during the rut. Anybody have any stories from early archery?
That hilly terrain could help this issue a lot.If I have a buck I can see I'll blow the first one in his direction quiet, if he's coming in but then hangs up I blow down and away. I live and hunt in a hilly spot so I'm usually blowing off a bench or if on the bench then down the hill and away. The seven point I shot two years ago was set up just like that. I saw him down the hill I swung off the platform to get the tree in between us then I grunted right at him, he looked up but didn't commit and started feeding away and I hit him with a longer louder grunt to the bench behind me and he came right to the tree and then past going up to the bench. It helps if they can't see until they get into range. In his case he had to pass me to get on the bench so he could see.
this was last of bow and i was on the ground.I'll have to try this as a last resort if I get a good one who won't come in to a normal sequence.
Wow with that explanation you must be an orchestra conductor!I like the flexible grunt tubes either ones by flextone or at least have a flexible tube extension but the "softness" of the entire call including the mouth piece just sounds more realistic to me. I've had luck with all kinds of calls but again, just like calling turkeys, you need to put some personality into the calling. If you're just puffing air through the grunt... ba, ba, ba with no inflection or tone or variation, it sounds contrived. If you're making a contact grunt, make it, blurp, blurp, blurp, make it sound like there's some wetness or softness to the grunt, not just a dry ba, ba, ba,. I believe you can achieve this with short, staccato type grunts in flexible calls and by moving the call trying to visualize a deer's trachea and moving while walking, running, trotting like they so often do during the rut. If you're just putting the call up to your mouth expecting it to do everything you're not calling right in my opinion.
That’s that doe snort and wheeze. She’s challenging you to a race.I seem to hear more deer blow than grunt.
trumpet player back in the dayWow with that explanation you must be an orchestra conductor!
I think it's all about inflection.I like the flexible grunt tubes either ones by flextone or at least have a flexible tube extension but the "softness" of the entire call including the mouth piece just sounds more realistic to me. I've had luck with all kinds of calls but again, just like calling turkeys, you need to put some personality into the calling. If you're just puffing air through the grunt... ba, ba, ba with no inflection or tone or variation, it sounds contrived. If you're making a contact grunt, make it, blurp, blurp, blurp, make it sound like there's some wetness or softness to the grunt, not just a dry ba, ba, ba,. I believe you can achieve this with short, staccato type grunts in flexible calls and by moving the call trying to visualize a deer's trachea and moving while walking, running, trotting like they so often do during the rut. If you're just putting the call up to your mouth expecting it to do everything you're not calling right in my opinion.