Hanging at height with madrock

[Ehlusive]

Who just uses their madrock safeguard to climb, hang from then rapel? With or without backup at height? In or out of spec rope?

 

[bowhuntr09]

I hang from a MR and a GriGri+ with no backup. I would not do that with out of spec rope such as Oplux.

 

[jackle1886]

I do it with 8mm Oplux. Probably will get chided but it works for me and I accept the risks.

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[DanO]

I'm guilty of doing that with the Madrock Safeguard and 8mm Oplux/Resc Tech with no issues. However, from now on I will be using a simple autoblock backup above the Safeguard or any other device while hanging from it.

 

[Ron1]

I use oplux with madrock to climb and tether. I put an autoblock below the safeguard after settling in.

 

[laltaffer]

Any videos on using the auto block?


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[raisins]

Shouldn’t a backup prusik be above the mad rock so that if it broke the mad rock would not pull down hit the top of prusik and act like a tender?

 

[Crcusmonky]

Technically yes. It would probably take something extreme or a long prusik to create the disaster your describing. But not impossible. I will probably start backing up above and just practice rappelling without the backup below.


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[raisins]

Technically yes. It would probably take something extreme or a long prusik to create the disaster your describing. But not impossible. I will probably start backing up above and just practice rappelling without the backup below.


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I'm probably speaking out of turn because I've never used a Madrock nor rappelled from a saddle setup (rappelled once as a kid off rocks). Having said that, could you keep a prusik loop in your pack, put it around the bottom before lowering yourself, and then remove the top one (or some variation on that theme)? I'm just throwing things at the wall because I'm bored but want everyone to be as safe as possible.

 

[2Sloe]

I currently one-stick climb and hang with the madrock. Use a short prusik backup on the tail at height. It can’t get within 12” of the madrock before it takes the full weight. Then I rappel on the same. However I am considering switching to climbing on a prusik to lighten the rope up while one-sticking up. Then tying in with the madrock at height.

 

[Jay_Disarray]

Heres how i back up my MR

 

[Heydeerman]

I climb with the MR and no back up. I attach to my tether at hunting height.

 

[SnakeEater]

I climb, hang, and rappel with the safeguard and no back ups.

 

[laltaffer]

Heres how i back up my MR

This is exactly what I was looking to see. Thank you for sharing.


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[Boog]

I climb on a tether with a Kong KISA, then switch to the rappel line and Madrock at height. I tie a figure eight on a bight a couple feet below the Madrock and clip it into the carabiner as a "gotcha loop" in case the Madrock fails.

 

[Ehlusive]

I climb, hang, and rappel with the safeguard and no back ups.

What rope?

 

[SnakeEater]

What rope?

Oplux

 

[ThereWillBeSpuds]

Any time I don't have a free hand to hold the tag end of the rope when using my grigri I tie a knot below it as a backup.

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[Fairchild#17]

8mm Resc Tech. Madrock. No back up.
When I'm hunting I often adjust the length of the tether as I move around the platform and tree. A backup prusik would just get in the way, cause too much movement to adjust, and potentially cost me valuable seconds during a quick shot opportunity.

 

[DeerLaughAtMe]

I also use madrock with resc tech or Oplux and leave a little room for adjustment but I tie an alpine butterfly below the madrock and clip to the carabiner for backup.


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