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I'd like to see the state sell a year round resident archery permit good for all WMA's. I'd pay $500 for one.
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Hog hunting Help
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FrankNess14
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Wow, I thought our WMA’s were bad in GA, but at least they allow the month of March to gun hunt hogs. Plus we have from middle of Oct to middle of Jan during deer gun season, and using whatever other tackle is legal for whatever other seasons.
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I float the idea to every game warden I meet. I've yet to meet one that says it's a bad idea. It's the nincompoops in Jackson you need to convince. I need to write up a bill and see if I can find a legislator to sponsor it.
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The private landowners are just as bad. Hogs can be eating them out of house and home, but they will not let you come hunt them on their land.
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What I have been told is that sport hunting is not an effective control measure and people hunting them interferes with their trapping operations. My argument with that is Game and Fish should not be running baited traps once archery deer season opens.
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I tromp down thousands of acres each year scouting and have yet to see a hog trap on public. They had one on that club I was in. It was minimally effective. Once the hogs left the area they had it in they were too lazy to move the thing. It ended up getting grown over in brush.
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And if they are that might be a good place to hunt, lol.
I can see objecting to running traps on public hunting lands during deer season, mainly because of idiots screwing things up. Private ground, trap the crap out of them as soon as they show up.
Sport hunting and trapping of hogs is not a control method. Ya gotta get big momma or you are just wasting your time. That's why pen traps is the way to go for serious hog control. It's worked here in Ohio. Maybe down south it's gotten to the point where it doesn't matter.
Matki15
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For those in Louisiana or Mississippi dealing with the “incidental take” laws, look into tss in larger shot sizes. It’s expensive but worth it. I’ve been killing hogs out to 75 yards with my 870 and 3” #2s. Full penetration even on the big hogs. Hate to throw out the “game changer” phrase, but it really has been a game changer for me hunting in February. No more head shots with the 17 or being limited to <20 yard shotgun shots
There is public land hunting year round on a few specific wma and no rules on private. Unfortunately the public u can hunt all year is far away from where I live.....but I have met a couple guys off SH who don't like it when pigs take over the feeders on their lease and sometimes get asked to help get the deer coming back.
One thing I found interesting on some of the local wma they changed the rules a couple seasons back to u are allowed to use centerfire during small game season....I suspect it's cause of the high wounding/ low recovery rate on pigs
They have some of those remote droppable ones with cell cams monitoring them. I have seen some body piles that were 15-18 in a pile. They also will use helicopters outside of hunting season and during periods of flooding will use boats and AR's when they can get them herded up on high ground spots. Still got crap loads of 'em. My only issues are I feel hunters should be allowed to shoot them during open deer seasons and they should not be running baited traps during an open season. I havent seen a baited trap during deer season but the claim is there are some. I have seen traps in maybe a half dozen different spots on one WMA over the last handful of years. One of the old pen traps before they got the ones they can drop is still down there in the woods rusting away.
Cept for that fine for hunting over bait. Unless you were blatantly hunting right over the trap I dont think any of the wardens I have met or dealt with would cite you for it if you were just in "the area" and couldnt see it from your location which could easily be the case over much of that WMA.
That's good to know - I've got some land in Lee that I've been clearing off for me and the kids to camp on, and now I've got another reason to go there! We used to catch them with dogs when I was younger and living in St. Cloud.
@Bowtie747 - how did you want to hunt them (rifle, shotgun, bow)? I'm on the Eastern side of Texas, and I have hogs on all of the cameras I have on public land. In Old Sabine River Bottom I had up to something like 17 camera at one time. And you're allowed to bait on some of the public as long as it's not deer or duck season. Some allow shotgun, most I've been to allow bow year round. I've been thinking of dropping a bag of corn a few weekends in a row myself, and seeing what I can get...
I did not personally hunt them when I lived in NC, but the game wardens there told me that there were plenty of hogs running in the public land on southern part of NC and into SC. I've found the biggest problem is being where they are at, at least with saddle hunting - they range quite far on a daily basis, and it's a lot of waiting unless you can draw them in with corn or something. There was a Youtube video out there where they stuck a tracker on a hog and saw that it ranged something like 5-7 miles a day.
The_Fit_Ness_Monster
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Oh yeah definitely! But I partially get why they don’t let people just wild out during off season, that could open the door to much more traffic in the woods I hunt. Making it bow only I think would be a legit move. I know the wildlife agents put a hurting on them year round/night but I’ve consistently seen the hog numbers grow immensely in my short life hunting. They vacate areas from time to time but overall the amount of hogs is pretty crazy. Luckily they taste amazing, and if you catch them live you can throw em in a pen with a domestic and tame them down pretty good, and they’re smart as hell. Pretty amazing/efficient creature once you get past the smell. It’s a white meat cow with the reproduction of a rabbit lol
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The_Fit_Ness_Monster
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Just passing through my 4 acres without feeding I got over 100 different hogs this past year come through here, down in south LA before here 100 was a slow day depending on the block of farms. We hunt them with dogs, slop feed, best way it’s rotting corn and a female in heat behind cattle panel. Traps only work on new to the area hogs they’re mostly too smart for that, drop traps work alright. But I can tell you I’ve witnessed it and there have been studies out of Atchafalaya basin and East Texas that have come to the census that it doesn’t matter.
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Yeah, I'd say make the permit archery only and charge $500 for it. That way you would not have folks shooting up the woods with guns and you'd only get serious people going out. Heck, you have to be serious to hunt hogs in August in MS, lol. They could issue you a hang tag to put in your truck so the warden could see it by just driving by your truck. There would not be a crowd I assure you at $500 a permit but my guess is statewide there might be 1000 buyers. That would be half a million bucks in their budget they didn't have before and not a lot of nonsense to put up with for the money. If each one of the permit holders killed 5 hogs per year that's 5000 less hogs to breed for next year that they are not killing right now.
As far as pressure goes, I tromp the woods down all year long. I did 110 miles of walking in February of last year alone and I'd love to know what I did during turkey season. Around here during turkey season you'd think someone hid $20,000,000 in gold in the woods for all the folks who stomp down every square inch of the place.
The_Fit_Ness_Monster
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Yes! All great points. Archery only out of season tags for hogs $350-$500 it’s a single tag that lets you kill unlimited hogs with a bow out of season. I 100% agree with all that and it’s probably, no, definitely the best argument I’ve ever heard for having something like this for the hogs. The fact it’s bow narrows down the crowd and the price I’m sure would further narrow it down but it would take much for them to make a killing. And like you said, if you’re tromping through Louisiana woods in July and August that’s dedication.
I was actually going to go buy an 870 today. If I was walking the woods with a shotgun instead of a bow the last week I could've taken at least a dozen pigs.
I'm not a shotgun guy at all but as best I could tell, in LA on public land we're limited to no larger than #6 NT shot outside of firearms season. I don't mind spending the extra money on better ammo to extend the range.