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Hoist rope

Are you using your pack's water bottle side holder also? Trying that made it work for me. The videos where they show how you can wrap it just perfect so the whole thing free hangs AND the bow end feeds smooth...didn't work for me. If it was loose enough to not pull my bow off the ground, then it would fall apart. I wrap it very loosely and use the bottle holder like a bucket. Works perfectly.

No, I just wrap like this video and stuff it in my pocket.

 
My rappel rope is used to pull up my pack, and the paracord that I tie behind the quick link to pull my rope down when back on the ground, is what I use for pulling up my bow.


Semper Fi,
Mike
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I was using a Doyle's but switched to paracord wrapped in a figure 8 (so it feeds well) and then stuffed in my backpack's water bottle holder.

Doyle's weighs almost a pound and I don't like that I can't lower the bow with it and then drop the cord (so I can be totally unconnected on the way down).
I did the exact same thing. Except I used paracord then switched to a hoist before switching back to paracord. I climb lots of trees with limbs and the hoist attached to my backpack kept getting caught. I also like to drop my bow not where I am climbing down on an off side of the tree and you cannot do that with a hoist with any limbs on the tree. Paracord wrapped figure 8 with a gear tie all day every day.
 
Always been in the figure 8 paracord camp. But recently saw this mentioned on the forum and found it cheap.


I used to work around fiber installs a lot and
had easy access to mule tape. That works really well too. I just don’t have it around anymore.
 
I now use my rappel/tether line. My paracord in a figure 8 that was my hoist is now my retrieval line.
 
What all are you hoisting? fig-8 paracord works well, unless hoisting stuff that's heavy (e.g. a late season pack if you need to haul heavy clothes).
 
Always been in the figure 8 paracord camp. But recently saw this mentioned on the forum and found it cheap.


I used to work around fiber installs a lot and
had easy access to mule tape. That works really well too. I just don’t have it around anymore.
Ive used this for 3 seasons and this season it has started to tangle like crazy. Your mileage may vary.
 
Always been in the figure 8 paracord camp. But recently saw this mentioned on the forum and found it cheap.


I used to work around fiber installs a lot and
had easy access to mule tape. That works really well too. I just don’t have it around anymore.

Does the paracord feed right off that thing like the figure 8 or do you have to unwind yourself?
 
Does the paracord feed right off that thing like the figure 8 or do you have to unwind yourself?
Haven't used it yet. In the thread where I saw it, the person said it did. But another user in this thread said it will tangle after awhile.
 
the Allen gear hoist is pretty awesome with a small mod. I took everthing off it, cut off the clip, strung it through the mesh on my pouch and tied a small nite ize gear tie on the end.
 
I'm currently using 5-6mm Samson Accessory Cord wrapped in a figure-8 and folded up in my left dump pouch. This is my haul line and my SRT/rappelling retreival line. It's big enough for a good grip, it hasn't tangled on me, it doesn't stretch with the amount of pressure I am applying, and it also is rated for 1200 lb. (5mm) and 2200 lb. (6mm).
 
I use an old Shakespeare automatic fly reel (Ebay) plus 50ft of 1.75mm zing-it dyneema rope. The reel works great - plays out and stays out until I hit the retract lever. It doesn't wind with enough force to pull a load, but it does wind up all the slack I have hanging out.

I made a loop spice in the end of that line and attached a wiregate carabiner to it (Now I have a spare carabiner if needed). and I also have one of those gaudy mall-ninja chinesium grapple hook ( https://www.amazon.com/Cyfie-Grappling-Stainless-Climbing-Carabiner/dp/B01H4QI1ZS ) I can attach.

I leave my pack and bow at the bottom of the tree when climbing, and don't attach anything - I found that if I do, it rattles a lot while the line plays out as I climb. The reel+line, gear hanger and grappler hook climb up with me in a pocket, or attached to my saddle.

Once I'm up the tree, I hook the grappler on the carabiner, lower it, snag my bow and pull that up, hang it. Then lower it again, grab the bag (lots of loops onthe outside), pull it up, hang it.

To climb down, I use the grappler again, to lower gear, then leave it on the ground, pull it up, lower something else.. then finally remove the grappler, hook the carabiner on my tether (I rappel and use this to pull down my tether) and then go down.

The only negatives I've found:
50ft fits on the reel but it's probably 20ft more than I'd ever need.
The grappler hook can be hard to aim with when trying to snag things left on the ground, I'd like to find a faster/better way to do that. Maybe leave it attached by carabiner to the pack on the ground, which won't rattle like the bow does as I climb.
The grapperl hook feels big and heavy until you want to snag something on the ground, and then that's a good thing.
The 1.75mm line is small. I usually have to wrap it around my hand to get a good grip while lifting heavy or pulling down my tether, and it hurts. I've started wrapping it around a stick or something for that. Once the load is moving, pulling by hand is no problem.
 
The 1.75mm line is small. I usually have to wrap it around my hand to get a good grip while lifting heavy or pulling down my tether, and it hurts. I've started wrapping it around a stick or something for that. Once the load is moving, pulling by hand is no problem.
I have the same problem with the paracord I use to pull up my pack. If it slides through my hand even a little it can cause damage. I should switch my climbing rope bow pull up and my paracord pack pull up line since my pack is much heavier.
 
I have the same problem with the paracord I use to pull up my pack. If it slides through my hand even a little it can cause damage. I should switch my climbing rope bow pull up and my paracord pack pull up line since my pack is much heavier.
I've found that the diameter of cord that's needed to comfortably pull up a late-season pack (warm clothes are heavy...heavy enough that paracord can be smaller than ideal) and the diameter of cord that is easy to fig-8 a sufficient length on my fingers (zingit is great for that)..are 2 different size cords on the wrong side of each other.
 
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