How have your T one sticks held up?

[JSEXTON23]

However, proper material preparation is key.

You mean like how we do oil compatibility testing to make sure it bonds through oil used to keep metal from rusting?

Not with two materials with different metallurgy...mild steel and mild or raw aluminum And raw aluminum yes...clad aluminum and titanium no...that’s just glue

I actually work for a company that develops this type of technology. Chemical welding of metals is a pretty big industry.

 

[rhagenw]

You mean like how we do oil compatibility testing to make sure it bonds through oil used to keep metal from rusting?

I actually work for a company that develops this type of technology. Chemical welding of metals is a pretty big industry.

I’ve work in collision repair, aviation maintenance and wind energy...must be some new unspoken break through has came out in the recent months...chemical welding and chemical bonding are very different processes with very different results in structural integrity

 

[JSEXTON23]

....must be some new unspoken break through has came out in the recent months...chemical welding and chemical bonding are very different processes with very different results in structural integrity

Or like 20 years. The material auto manufacturers use is literally called “Weld Bond”. I mean chemical engineers wouldn’t know the difference between bonding and welding though.

 

[rhagenw]

Or like 20 years. The material auto manufacturers use is literally called “Weld Bond”. I mean chemical engineers wouldn’t know the difference between bonding and welding though.

Yes...of metal with similar metallurgy???

 

[JSEXTON23]

Yes...of metal with similar metallurgy???

There are applications where dissimilar metals or even carbon fiber are welded, yes. Often a material needs to be compatible with different types of metal because they might use an aluminum bonnet on one vehicle model and have a steel bonnet on another. Even though they might not be welding two different metals to the same part, the material needs to have cross-compatibility.

I’m not making the argument that it would work for this stick application. Just pointing out that your statement was incorrect regarding chemical weld of different metals. Notice I didn’t say all metals.

 

[Weldabeast]

There are applications where dissimilar metals or even carbon fiber are welded, yes. Often a material needs to be compatible with different types of metal because they might use an aluminum bonnet on one vehicle model and have a steel bonnet on another. Even though they might not be welding two different metals to the same part, the material needs to have cross-compatibility.

I’m not making the argument that it would work for this stick application. Just pointing out that your statement was incorrect regarding chemical weld of different metals. Notice I didn’t say all metals.

I like u....but please don't call it a bonnet. Hehehe

Diffusion Bonding Aluminum to Titanium

www.cjt-limited.com

 

[Weldabeast]

I don't own any so I maybe shouldn't comment....g2 showed me his that he said he's been using for a while and 1 that had been thru the destruction test and I couldn't detect any play/wiggle. Is it temperature related with the glue failure?

If u were worried about the pin breaking or "coming out" couldn't u just drill out the hole to except a bolt?

Are there any examples (pics) of failures yet floating around?

I don't really care either way...it's been interesting seeing the build up, release, praise/complaints
IMO it's a great design but I never hunted using any so opinion easily changes when it comes to gear/equipment that don't work right

 

[iamcorey]

I don't own any so I maybe shouldn't comment....g2 showed me his that he said he's been using for a while and 1 that had been thru the destruction test and I couldn't detect any play/wiggle. Is it temperature related with the glue failure?

any idea whether g2's stick was a prototype or a factory run?

 

[Plebe]

I don't own any so I maybe shouldn't comment....g2 showed me his that he said he's been using for a while and 1 that had been thru the destruction test and I couldn't detect any play/wiggle. Is it temperature related with the glue failure?

If u were worried about the pin breaking or "coming out" couldn't u just drill out the hole to except a bolt?

Are there any examples (pics) of failures yet floating around?

I don't really care either way...it's been interesting seeing the build up, release, praise/complaints
IMO it's a great design but I never hunted using any so opinion easily changes when it comes to gear/equipment that don't work right

I might have this wrong, but my perception is the step rocks a bit if the glue fails and that, structural concerns aside, it produces undesirable noise. If that's indeed the case, then replacing with a normal grade 8 bolt likely won't resolve that.

I'm surprised there is that much play. I think the tube in tube design is smart. I'm sure they'll figure a way to maximize that design and it will be awesome.

I'm surprised I haven't heard of anybody grinding down the points at the ends of the steps. That's a common complaint, and it seems resolvable.

 

[bigmike23]

I might have this wrong, but my perception is the step rocks a bit if the glue fails and that, structural concerns aside, it produces undesirable noise. If that's indeed the case, then replacing with a normal grade 8 bolt likely won't resolve that.

I'm surprised there is that much play. I think the tube in tube design is smart. I'm sure they'll figure a way to maximize that design and it will be awesome.

I'm surprised I haven't heard of anybody grinding down the points at the ends of the steps. That's a common complaint, and it seems resolvable.

The points only suck if you have a softer soled boot. I can really feel it with my rubber boots, but I can't feel a thing with my firmer mountain boots. Not a big deal to me

 

[Weldabeast]

any idea whether g2's stick was a prototype or a factory run?

I do not know

 

[enkriss]

I don't own any so I maybe shouldn't comment....g2 showed me his that he said he's been using for a while and 1 that had been thru the destruction test and I couldn't detect any play/wiggle. Is it temperature related with the glue failure?

If u were worried about the pin breaking or "coming out" couldn't u just drill out the hole to except a bolt?

Are there any examples (pics) of failures yet floating around?

I don't really care either way...it's been interesting seeing the build up, release, praise/complaints
IMO it's a great design but I never hunted using any so opinion easily changes when it comes to gear/equipment that don't work right

Maybe the temperatures from sitting in a shipping container for a while?

When the glue popped on mine the step rocked back and forth about 1/16”

 

[Weldabeast]

I get it....such expensive things shouldn't do that.and I'd be mad too

On to how to fix...is there enough room to drill a second hole and install an additional roll pin or bolt?

 

[enkriss]

Hmmmmm….

 

[jvarn81]

Maybe they decided to just have Hawk make their stick for them

 

[theAdmiral]

Maybe they copied the Hawk sticks to return the favor of Hawk copying their platform?

 

[JSEXTON23]

Maybe they copied the Hawk sticks to return the favor of Hawk copying their platform?

I’m sure it will all get worked out by the patent lawyers.