Hunting Incident

[Kurt]

I get mad but my Lord Jesus tells me to just forget it and do no evil so I have to comply. What choice do I have?

I always like to think when I run into someone whose actions or responses don't necessarily fit the situation that they have something in their lives that is unmanageable for them and they are over whelmed/angry/scared. I don't need to know what it is, but as a person I care. This allows me to act and deal with that person in a more compassionate manner. It does two things that are positive for me. It allows me to feel empathy for the person, and it allows me to not let his actions impact my well being, so I'm not carrying around any negative thoughts or emotions. Hurt people, hurt people. It's like the lion with the thorn in his paw. You did right by offering it up and letting it go. It doesn't mean I'm a push over, or that you should be, not even close, but it lets me decide how important is it without allowing someone else to effect my state of mind.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I always like to think when I run into someone whose actions or responses don't necessarily fit the situation that they have something in their lives that is unmanageable for them and they are over whelmed/angry/scared. I don't need to know what it is, but as a person I care. This allows me to act and deal with that person in a more compassionate manner. It does two things that are positive for me. It allows me to feel empathy for the person, and it allows me to not let his actions impact my well being, so I'm not carrying around any negative thoughts or emotions. Hurt people, hurt people. It's like the lion with the thorn in his paw. You did right by offering it up and letting it go. It doesn't mean I'm a push over, or that you should be, not even close, but it lets me decide how important is it without allowing someone else to effect my state of mind.

They have something in their lives. A sin nature. I do too, the same thing and I want to react badly but new nature says
Love your enemy.


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[bj139]

I hate to see another hunter or fisherman. I go outdoors to get away from people. That’s nearly impossible these days. Always got to put up with someone else’s BS. With that said, I’ve walked up on hunters. It’s the worse feeling in the world for me. I feel so ashamed.

When I walked in that way, I didn't see his stand. I didn't walk right by it but it may have been 50 yards away. I was in the woods a few hours when he walks by my stand around 40 yards away coming from the other direction to get to his stand. I didn't start yelling at him but kept quiet. When I later walked near his stand he yelled. I'm confused. What's the difference?
The thought just occurred to me he was parked in the same parking lot as me and he walked by my stand toward this parking lot. He must have walked in way too far and was coming back to find his stand. He may have had problems in his life and been pre-upset.

 

[bj139]

I'm confused though...why weren't you sitting til dar o'clock...?

I was tired of stumbling out in the dark through thorn bushes.

 

[dlist777]

That guy is way too sensitive to hunt public. It's like he expects the privacy of owning his own land or leasing, but he wants to pay nothing. Public is great, but you gotta be flexible. Don't worry too much about him.

 

[bj139]

That guy is way too sensitive to hunt public. It's like he expects the privacy of owning his own land or leasing, but he wants to pay nothing. Public is great, but you gotta be flexible. Don't worry too much about him.

@Kurt mentioned the other hunter may have had problems causing him to be irritated. Not being able to find his stand may have been it. I understand better now. I am not upset at him. I've forgotten it. I will just try to avoid trouble in the future.

 

[SNIPERBBB]

I hate to see another hunter or fisherman. I go outdoors to get away from people. That’s nearly impossible these days. Always got to put up with someone else’s BS. With that said, I’ve walked up on hunters. It’s the worse feeling in the world for me. I feel so ashamed.

No reason to really be ashamed, though that feeling can't really be helped. Unless you're ashamed for not getting in earlier because you hit the snooze button or you met in the parking lot and discussed where each of you would be and you got lost or misunderstood each other

 

[bj139]

I don't understand this about how walking by some other hunter can ruin their hunt. I have been hunting for more than 40 years and most hunters talked about walkers moving the deer so the sitters would get a shot. I think all this ruining of your hunt idea is a new internet thing.

 

[SNIPERBBB]

I think this crap started when the lease craze started. All of a sudden even the actual landowners can't even do farm work in some cases because it will "scare the deer". Social media and hunting shows just accelerated it.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I don't understand this about how walking by some other hunter can ruin their hunt. I have been hunting for more than 40 years and most hunters talked about walkers moving the deer so the sitters would get a shot. I think all this ruining of your hunt idea is a new internet thing.

Or just the excuse of poor vegan hunters


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[Hogtooth]

I was a teenager and rifle hunting large section of private that my dad and I had permission to hunt for years We decided to meet at the truck at 12:00 to eat lunch and discuss what we was going to do that evening. about 11:30 I started stalking slow and easy back down from the gap in the mountain. When I meet a large fit man on the trail back down. He raised his voice asking what in f--- am I doing here this is private property. I said that I am hunting. He told me that his family bought it and they don't allow hunting except with family. I asked him who he bought it from. He didn't know the owners name instead he made up a name. I then told him that if you paid John Doe for the property that he had been ripped off because he didn't own this property. I said I'm going to the truck to meet my dad to eat a bite. I will be back in my stand after I eat. He then said that would be fine since I was already here but don't come back tomorrow. I told him OK. Of course my dad and I was back the next day and we never seen the guy again all season.
Come to find out the guy I meet in the woods that day carrying a 7mm mag just got out of prison about 2 weeks before. He was convicted of attempted murder.

People are scared of bears, wolves, snakes and other wildlife but the scariest thing in the woods are the people. You never know what type of person you might come across.

 

[SNIPERBBB]

I was a teenager and rifle hunting large section of private that my dad and I had permission to hunt for years We decided to meet at the truck at 12:00 to eat lunch and discuss what we was going to do that evening. about 11:30 I started stalking slow and easy back down from the gap in the mountain. When I meet a large fit man on the trail back down. He raised his voice asking what in f--- am I doing here this is private property. I said that I am hunting. He told me that his family bought it and they don't allow hunting except with family. I asked him who he bought it from. He didn't know the owners name instead he made up a name. I then told him that if you paid John Doe for the property that he had been ripped off because he didn't own this property. I said I'm going to the truck to meet my dad to eat a bite. I will be back in my stand after I eat. He then said that would be fine since I was already here but don't come back tomorrow. I told him OK. Of course my dad and I was back the next day and we never seen the guy again all season.
Come to find out the guy I meet in the woods that day carrying a 7mm mag just got out of prison about 2 weeks before. He was convicted of attempted murder.

People are scared of bears, wolves, snakes and other wildlife but the scariest thing in the woods are the people. You never know what type of person you might come across.

It's somewhat disconcerting with the way some of the hunting packs are being made today. Bought one a few weeks ago and noticed they had some pouches on the waist straps. Cool. Until I read the pack diagram closer and they are labeled as handgun holsters. Course I'm pretty sure my LC9 won't fit with the pouch being secured but it's a sad day when you're marketing built in CCW holsters on your hunting pack.

 

[DanielB89]

**Haven't read the whole thread**

I don't mean to go against you here, but there are times that most deem a "prime time" to hunting and I would equate them to golf etiquette. In my mind, walking in or out within an hour or two from day light is very offensive. In my mind, those are the times when I think deer are heading to or from some where.

I had a situation a few years back on a local WMA that I was watching a doe come in, I was trying to get my first kill with my longbow, and as soon as she gets to where the next step puts her in an opening she stops and starts bobbing her head and looking a completely different way than I am. She stomps, snorts, and then runs off. It was around 5:20 and it got dark at around 5:45. When I looked over and saw him I threw my hands up questioning what he was doing. I didn't say a word.

I immediately climbed down in frustration, packed up all my stuff, and headed to the truck. When I got the truck I left him a note on general hunting etiquette. I was not rude, I expressed my frustration and told him how he needs to respect other hunters and left him my phone number should he have any questions.

 

[bj139]

**Haven't read the whole thread**

I don't mean to go against you here, but there are times that most deem a "prime time" to hunting and I would equate them to golf etiquette. In my mind, walking in or out within an hour or two from day light is very offensive. In my mind, those are the times when I think deer are heading to or from some where.

I had a situation a few years back on a local WMA that I was watching a doe come in, I was trying to get my first kill with my longbow, and as soon as she gets to where the next step puts her in an opening she stops and starts bobbing her head and looking a completely different way than I am. She stomps, snorts, and then runs off. It was around 5:20 and it got dark at around 5:45. When I looked over and saw him I threw my hands up questioning what he was doing. I didn't say a word.

I immediately climbed down in frustration, packed up all my stuff, and headed to the truck. When I got the truck I left him a note on general hunting etiquette. I was not rude, I expressed my frustration and told him how he needs to respect other hunters and left him my phone number should he have any questions.

If hunting gets to be like a golf course, I'm giving up. I am not getting stuck up a tree in the dark for "etiquette". I should be free to leave whenever I want. If you want privacy, get a lease to yourself or buy some land.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I once met a spacey guy in a bush looking for a UFO landing spot. He looked spaced out and lost.

Another guy walked by me one time with two hunting dogs tracking my scent. He looks up and says too bad your hunt is ruined and this is public land. Haha
I expect I was near his gun hunting spot that opened in a few days
I have had coyotes ruin a few hunts. I am allowed to terminate them but never had a clear shot

Oh well. Maybe 4 hunts ruined in 6 years

Oh and trespassing gun hunters several years in a row on my land



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[raisins]

Just me, I would have said I am so sorry did not mean to mess you up and went on my way. People are crazy I try to avoid them if I can lol.

I agree. You can apologize without really meaning it and without emasculating yourself. You're just humoring a dumby that might be dangerous. The key is to further your own goals, safety, and peace of mind with every decision.

 

[army12b]

If hunting gets to be like a golf course, I'm giving up. I am not getting stuck up a tree in the dark for "etiquette". I should be free to leave whenever I want. If you want privacy, get a lease to yourself or buy some land.

Gotta agree with this, it's pretty basic if you hunt public guess who you will deal with,

I once met a spacey guy in a bush looking for a UFO landing spot. He looked spaced out and lost.

Another guy walked by me one time with two hunting dogs tracking my scent. He looks up and says too bad your hunt is ruined and this is public land. Haha
I expect I was near his gun hunting spot that opened in a few days
I have had coyotes ruin a few hunts. I am allowed to terminate them but never had a clear shot



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Hunting public land gotta deal with the public, like others I have had some experiences but none of them this bad, however I am not ruling out the possibility in the future, price you pay for hunting public.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

I once had a guy walk up on me and when I waved him off he suddenly turned and came right to me. I was thinking "Great, last thing I want to do is have a conversation at the tree . . ." We've all had them . . .

"are you hunting?"
"yep"
"are you seeing any"
"not in the last five minutes and probably not for the next five"
"do you sit here all the time"
"Yep" a direct lie but why not . . .?
Etc, etc.

Well it turned ot the guy was scouting for rifle season and was seriously lost. He was extremely happy that I had "flagged him down". It turns out he was more than 2 miles from where he'd left his car and was walking in a direction taking him directly away from it. On top of it he'd left his young son building a rifle blind while he went to "look over the next hill". I ended up climbing down and walking him back to my truck and giving him a ride back to his car where this young son was patiently waiting. Apparently this wasn't the first time he'd gotten turned around like that.

 

[bj139]

I once had a guy walk up on me and when I waved him off he suddenly turned and came right to me. I was thinking "Great, last thing I want to do is have a conversation at the tree . . ." We've all had them . . .

"are you hunting?"
"yep"
"are you seeing any"
"not in the last five minutes and probably not for the next five"
"do you sit here all the time"
"Yep" a direct lie but why not . . .?
Etc, etc.

Well it turned ot the guy was scouting for rifle season and was seriously lost. He was extremely happy that I had "flagged him down". It turns out he was more than 2 miles from where he'd left his car and was walking in a direction taking him directly away from it. On top of it he'd left his young son building a rifle blind while he went to "look over the next hill". I ended up climbing down and walking him back to my truck and giving him a ride back to his car where this young son was patiently waiting. Apparently this wasn't the first time he'd gotten turned around like that.

When I was young, I once got lost and walked down the whole mountain out in Carlisle. I was walking back up the road when my dad and uncle came driving down looking for me. They were going to look in the bar at the base on the mountain. Now that I'm old, that's probably where I would be.

 

[DB4x4]

Maybe we should all have business cards made that say:

Hello.
My name is _______.
Yes, I am hunting.
No, I have not seen much here.
A speedy, quiet departure would be appreciated.
Thanks & Godspeed...

When people walk nearby your setup or come up to your tree to talk, you can clip the card onto your bow rope and lower it down to them.