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I Finally Saw a Deer

That's what I was doing based on other people bumping their deer when following too quick. The next day it turned into a minor SNAFU. Going back today. It's been raining here for 24 hours. I'll have to follow the vultures. BTW, I had no weapon on my recovery hike yesterday.

Yeah, many people say "when in doubt / back out"...but it's good if you have more information to base this decision on. Weather / meat spoilage issues might lead you to be more aggressive and track sooner as well. But again, you need as much info as you can to make these decisions.

Good luck today. Sorry about the troubles.....I don't think I'm interested in hunting Noximixin next year anymore!
 
Here's my 2 cents on your situation, what I would have done the same and what I would have done different. I am not writing anything to criticize you, I only hope it helps you for future hunts. There is definitely some overlap with a few things I've already read in here.

After the shot the first thing I would have done was mark the last spot I saw the deer. I try to pick out a tree as a landmark. Sometimes there won't be much of a blood trail initially and having this spot marked can be a huge help. Sometimes you'll walk over to this spot and they are laying right there. Then I'll mark where the shot was. In the heat of the moment sometimes this is really hard to remember even just minutes later. Again I pick a tree, rock, bush as a landmark. Depending on how everything went down determines what I'll do. If I know it was a gut shot, I just back out and don't even check out the arrow. I had one bed 30 yards into the thick stuff after the shot once and pushed it just by checking out the arrow at the shot location when I knew it was a gut shot and was going to back out. If I think its a shot I might was to start tracking right away, or want to consider my options I'll go over to the spot of the shot. Then I mark it with toilet paper. If I think its worth trailing right away I'll follow the blood trail and mark blood with TP. TP makes it easy to look back and see if the deer is trending in a direction. If I think I need to wait I back out. If the weather allows me, I am conservative. The buck I shot on Oct 30 was at noon. I went back in just before light on the 31st and found him right away. I have another buck I shot in 14 degree weather at 9 am. I went back at light the next morning and it took a few hours to find him due to a freak snow flurry but I found him at noon the next day. Both of these deer actually died right after the shot but they were still dead the next morning.

As far as going back and other hunters. The best solution is to hunt areas where the other hunters aren't going. Then you won't have to worry about it. But that is not always possible so this is what I would do. If I know I have to track a deer I'm probably up super early anyway cause I'm antzy to get on the trail. I would get in there to where I shot at least 1/2 hour before daylight and be ready to go at light. You can even start snooping around in the dark. I have a 500 lumen LED light that I recommend for tracking and I've spent many hours tracking in the dark with it. If you are there before the other hunters to track your deer they are probably not going to give you a hard time. This is where I differ on some of the other guys opinions about waiting a few hours until after light.

I do think you did the right thing by avoiding confrontation. In that case I probably would have waiting in my car or went to get breakfast and waited for the guy to be gone to try to track.

Hope this helps.
 
Vultures at 7am for a dusk shot seem...unusual.
Not a bit. The buck I shot this fall I waited only maybe an hour after I shot him and it probably took a good 20-25 minutes or so to blood trail him maybe a half an hour at the most as I was moving slow purposefully. I knew I was getting close to him as the turkey vultures were circling overhead and he wasn't dead even two hours!!!
 
Here's my 2 cents on your situation, what I would have done the same and what I would have done different. I am not writing anything to criticize you, I only hope it helps you for future hunts. There is definitely some overlap with a few things I've already read in here.

After the shot the first thing I would have done was mark the last spot I saw the deer. I try to pick out a tree as a landmark. Sometimes there won't be much of a blood trail initially and having this spot marked can be a huge help. Sometimes you'll walk over to this spot and they are laying right there. Then I'll mark where the shot was. In the heat of the moment sometimes this is really hard to remember even just minutes later. Again I pick a tree, rock, bush as a landmark. Depending on how everything went down determines what I'll do. If I know it was a gut shot, I just back out and don't even check out the arrow. I had one bed 30 yards into the thick stuff after the shot once and pushed it just by checking out the arrow at the shot location when I knew it was a gut shot and was going to back out. If I think its a shot I might was to start tracking right away, or want to consider my options I'll go over to the spot of the shot. Then I mark it with toilet paper. If I think its worth trailing right away I'll follow the blood trail and mark blood with TP. TP makes it easy to look back and see if the deer is trending in a direction. If I think I need to wait I back out. If the weather allows me, I am conservative. The buck I shot on Oct 30 was at noon. I went back in just before light on the 31st and found him right away. I have another buck I shot in 14 degree weather at 9 am. I went back at light the next morning and it took a few hours to find him due to a freak snow flurry but I found him at noon the next day. Both of these deer actually died right after the shot but they were still dead the next morning.

As far as going back and other hunters. The best solution is to hunt areas where the other hunters aren't going. Then you won't have to worry about it. But that is not always possible so this is what I would do. If I know I have to track a deer I'm probably up super early anyway cause I'm antzy to get on the trail. I would get in there to where I shot at least 1/2 hour before daylight and be ready to go at light. You can even start snooping around in the dark. I have a 500 lumen LED light that I recommend for tracking and I've spent many hours tracking in the dark with it. If you are there before the other hunters to track your deer they are probably not going to give you a hard time. This is where I differ on some of the other guys opinions about waiting a few hours until after light.

I do think you did the right thing by avoiding confrontation. In that case I probably would have waiting in my car or went to get breakfast and waited for the guy to be gone to try to track.

Hope this helps.
I did think about going back in when I saw his truck was gone. There was still another hunter or two in there and I didn't.
 
Not a bit. The buck I shot this fall I waited only maybe an hour after I shot him and it probably took a good 20-25 minutes or so to blood trail him maybe a half an hour at the most as I was moving slow purposefully. I knew I was getting close to him as the turkey vultures were circling overhead and he wasn't dead even two hours!!!

I think the idea is that they don’t fly around at night looking for food. It would mean they found the deer before dark the say before and roosted above it, or they found it in the dark that morning.

neither seem likely given the circumstances.
 
Couple of points you guys missed here. A buddy of mine shot a nice doe years ago and we went back to my house dumped off our gear and came back about an hour later. Long story short, some sob found his deer and lugged it off. Never did find out who did it even though we actually had a witness who saw the guy and a buddy loading it into their truck. Sometimes it doesn't pay to wait. 2nd point is I like to use a coleman lantern for blood tracking if possible. You ain't gonna believe the difference if you try it.
 
Couple of points you guys missed here. A buddy of mine shot a nice doe years ago and we went back to my house dumped off our gear and came back about an hour later. Long story short, some sob found his deer and lugged it off. Never did find out who did it even though we actually had a witness who saw the guy and a buddy loading it into their truck. Sometimes it doesn't pay to wait. 2nd point is I like to use a coleman lantern for blood tracking if possible. You ain't gonna believe the difference if you try it.
Yep, used the coleman lantern for many years then the Nite Lite "coon hunters special" with the rheostat control and finally now LED white which just explodes light everywhere. It's a Streamlight "Waypoint" also doubles as a great coyote/fox light at night if you get the red or green covers.
 
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I think the idea is that they don’t fly around at night looking for food. It would mean they found the deer before dark the say before and roosted above it, or they found it in the dark that morning.

neither seem likely given the circumstances.
Yeah I agree but thinking the animal has to be stinking pretty bad before the buzzards hit it is plain wrong. They want fresh stuff too. Incidentally, The very next day I went up by my gut pile and there was not a piece of hair or anything left!!! There was one big coyote turd in the grass where his gutpile was and that was it. Between the coyotes, turkey vultures, crows, foxes and black bears...... things don't last long!!!
 
I went to my hunting spot today and there were no vehicles in the parking area. I found my preset tree and searched the area where the doe was when shot at and the direction it ran. I found nothing. It is possible the arrow was deflected by an out of focus branch in the scope. I walked around from 10AM to noon. I saw one vulture overhead which is not unusual. There were 6 or 7 vultures circling yesterday. It was a whole lot easier to find my tree today with no one yelling in my ear. I am getting used to this suburban hunting, sad to say.
 
I went to my hunting spot today and there were no vehicles in the parking area. I found my preset tree and searched the area where the doe was when shot at and the direction it ran. I found nothing. It is possible the arrow was deflected by an out of focus branch in the scope. I walked around from 10AM to noon. I saw one vulture overhead which is not unusual. There were 6 or 7 vultures circling yesterday. It was a whole lot easier to find my tree today with no one yelling in my ear. I am getting used to this suburban hunting, sad to say.

did you ever find your arrow you shot the deer with?
 
Couple of points you guys missed here. A buddy of mine shot a nice doe years ago and we went back to my house dumped off our gear and came back about an hour later. Long story short, some sob found his deer and lugged it off. Never did find out who did it even though we actually had a witness who saw the guy and a buddy loading it into their truck. Sometimes it doesn't pay to wait. 2nd point is I like to use a coleman lantern for blood tracking if possible. You ain't gonna believe the difference if you try it.
Man, I gotta go out on a limb and guess that of all the reasons to lose a deer, human theft has to be at the bottom of the list. I'll take my chances with it.

But you're 100% right about a coleman lantern. Those things make blood sparkle. Not sure why, but they're superior for sure.
 
I might go hunting at this place tomorrow. I don't know if Friday will have more hunters out. I hope not.
 
Yeah I agree but thinking the animal has to be stinking pretty bad before the buzzards hit it is plain wrong. They want fresh stuff too. Incidentally, The very next day I went up by my gut pile and there was not a piece of hair or anything left!!! There was one big coyote turd in the grass where his gutpile was and that was it. Between the coyotes, turkey vultures, crows, foxes and black bears...... things don't last long!!!
Yeah - no doubt vultures like a fresh meal. But I figure large gatherings at dawn are usually near the previous day's scavenging though.
No. If it deflected it could be anywhere.
Yeah hopefully a clean miss.
 
Yeah - no doubt vultures like a fresh meal. But I figure large gatherings at dawn are usually near the previous day's scavenging though.

Yeah hopefully a clean miss.
The doe bounded off as if it might have been hit but with all the stands in this area they might run first, and ask questions later, if they have been shot at a lot.
 
I was just looking at GAIA gps and I can get into this area from the other side and not go past the salt block guy's stand. I'll do that.
 
The doe bounded off as if it might have been hit but with all the stands in this area they might run first, and ask questions later, if they have been shot at a lot.
At some point you never really know based just on behavior. I've loosed shot after shot (with a rifle, under 70 yards!) at deer with no reaction, and I've had deer take off like a shot at the cocking of a hammer, cracking of a stick, twang of a bow, etc.
 
I am still blown away at the thought of going several hunts without seeing deer. You deserve a pat on the back for that type of determination. I am feeling very spoiled. Great job man!
Thanks. It was at least a dozen hunts without seeing a deer, maybe more. I was thinking of giving up. I saw the salt block guy more than I saw deer. :mask: Pretty bad.
 
I am still blown away at the thought of going several hunts without seeing deer. You deserve a pat on the back for that type of determination. I am feeling very spoiled. Great job man!
Yeah, my wife could NOT STAND Northern MN gun hunting (she wanted to come along once...and was immediately cold and bored). Population levels (especially given current wolf population, recent harsh winters, etc)...are not high. And in the "traditional" family hunting grounds...you'll see deer on fewer days than you don't.

Living where there are more deer around...she's a lot more down for bowhunting around the house and getting revenge for her fallen flowers.
 
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