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Here is the response to the email I sent to the ashbybowhunting foundation.org
Another thing that I'd like to point out is that Ashby used to go to butcher shops that were processing deer during gun season and he offered them $5 for each (non fatal) broadhead they found in each of the gun fatal deer. He said he started running out of money. The point is that this is another example of the extent he goes to in order to study arrow lethality.
Tom:
Thank you for forwarding the post. I read the initial post only and not the entire thread. The comments regarding a pass-through by Dr. Ashby are not misleading at all, as BC states. BC is wanting people to disregard the entire medical community that impaled objects retard blood loss. This includes veterinarians and the studies/findings of the Royal College of Veterinary Science that a passthrough is more lethal than having the arrow remain in the animal. This goes against simple Boy Scout First Aid that if you are impaled with an object not to pull the object out as it could make the bleeding worse. This is not theory, it is fact and proven by many – ask any Doctor. An arrow and broadhead kill by hemorrhagic shock, and if you have a 2-3 inch wide cut that goes maybe 2-3 inches deep and maybe gets one lung vs a 1.25” wide cut that passes through an animal and presumably taking out both lungs…1 or more feet of penetration, common sense should prevail here and this is a non-topic. Bullets kill by three methods, hydrostatic shock as long as that projectile is above a certain speed, cavitation and hemorrhagic shock.
We have many videos of 70# compound shooters using what I would consider a light to mid-weight arrow system with an expandable failing to penetrate ribs on 120-140# Texas whitetails and subsequent game camera photos of those deer with scars on them – alive and well and walking around.
Here are a few videos for you to share with your crew online:
https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-to-treat-an-impaled-object-1298804
https://digg.com/2021/paramedic-dem...r-ever-remove-an-impaled-object-from-a-person
https://www.firstaidforfree.com/first-aid-measures-for-an-impaled-object/
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN14135_TC 4-02x1 C2 INCL FINAL WEB.pdf
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/fulltext/2001/09000/The_Diagnosis__Impalement_Injury.14.aspx
If BC wants to contact us either through the webpage or via email, he is more than welcome to do so and we’ll be glad to help him out, as we are here to help all bowhunters.
Thank you,
Rob
Rob Neilson
Co-Founder & President
Ashby Bowhunting Foundation
www.ashbybowhunting.org
i wonder if anyone dip old broadheads from the drawer in blood and collected $$