Latitude SS vs Tethrd One?

[Plebe]

You don't know how plastic feels different than aluminum or titanium or even majority carbon fiber? As soon as I touched it, I could feel the plastic feel. As soon as I put it on the tree, I could hear the sound I don't like. Not that I like metal banging together though. I am sure they're durable I haven't tested their durability. I put them in the tree and climbed with four or them one time and wasn't a fan.

Yeah, I mean we can go in circles about it. I just don't have a feel for that.

Plastic and metal are both solids. Given the same heft, texture, smoothness, I don't know what else there is to feel in the hand other than warmth. Like a Corian countertop feels warmer than a quartz countertop.

Injection molded CF composites have a density close to 1/2 of aluminum, but I don't know that I can feel that. I can't discern other physical properties like hardness or melting point by hand. Idk, like I said I guess that's an individual thing.

You don't like the sound on the tree, that's a complaint I can understand. I haven't used them to know how I feel about it. As said, there's been video of some nasty Tethrd ONE stick noise on trees as well. I'm not saying one is better than another or one can be mitigated moreso than another.

Just wanted to clarify some details that I think are important when labeling the stick "plastic". That's so far from telling.

 

[Chandler96]

Yeah, I mean we can go in circles about it. I just don't have a feel for that.

Plastic and metal are both solids. Given the same heft, texture, smoothness, I don't know what else there is to feel in the hand other than warmth. Like a Corian countertop feels warmer than a quartz countertop.

Injection molded CF composites have a density close to 1/2 of aluminum, but I don't know that I can feel that. I can't discern other physical properties like hardness or melting point by hand. Idk, like I said I guess that's an individual thing.

You don't like the sound on the tree, that's a complaint I can understand. I haven't used them to know how I feel about it. As said, there's been video of some nasty Tethrd ONE stick noise on trees as well. I'm not saying one is better than another or one can be mitigated moreso than another.

Just wanted to clarify some details that I think are important when labeling the stick "plastic". That's so far from telling.

I'm sure the tethrd ones can be noisy too. I one stick and that can be noisy if not done carefully enough. I think many people are surprised when they get the latitude stick in their hands how plastic it feels when its clearly labeled carbon. I understand the process and why it feels that way. It's just something personal I don't want my stick to feel like.

 

[Plebe]

Looking at those Stacked Outdoors sticks, they appear to be much more robust and are 2x the weight yet still only rated to 300 pounds.

We don't know the matrix or the "custom fiber" in the FRP that Stacked uses, nor the matrix and length of fiber in the Latitude CFRP.

It's a bit like saying the tube on a Muddy stick looks twice as thick as the tube on the Tethrd ONE stick.

They're not the same materials, it's apples to oranges.

Still, I think the jury is out until they're proven. We hope the engineering science has been adequately applied and that manufacturing is perfect with our gear, but that's not proving to always be the case. Lightweight sticks are pushing limits, so the margins are smaller.

Stay safe my friends.

 

[jvarn81]

I am hunting with mine Thursday evening, and I will be paying special attention to this flexing.

I did a sit Saturday night. I stood out as far as I could on one foot and didn't see much pulling away from the tree. Definately not an inch. I am maybe 205lb in my hunting gear. Maybe you got a weak set?

 

[Dope on a Rope]

I got mine before the season started here and have not climbed with them in the woods, but tested them in the backyard. Noise wise, they are full of hollow sections that seem to amplify acoustics(think a plastic bottle on bark but not that bad), so I wrapped them and it’s better. I’ve not had any issue in my limited use with them pulling away from the tree. I really like the feel in my hand and the length. I worry about the strength of the attachment method. I’m not concerned about a plastic reinforced with carbon fibers(that’s what a Glock frame is) but since they’re somewhat minimalist(thin) and I’m not sure what the plastic is, I’m not confident in making it my primary climbing method especially as it gets colder. And that’s the reason I haven’t hunted with it, I don’t want to switch climbing methods mid season, and I don’t have faith in an unspecified material(if somebody knows the material I’d love to know). Also I prefer my Amsteel aiders over my strap aiders but don’t yet trust those not to break the (reinforced) plastic stick just because of the small contact point from 7/64 cord. One sticking with a rappel, I don’t think of the stick is a critical safety aspect of my climbing, but I do want to be confident in my tools.

 

[Mopar1169]

The more I use them the more I like em. I have been up 4 different trees since I got to MN. Solid on every climb. Minimal flex no flexing away from tree. These things were made for packing on the beast stand. They fit center post perfect. I am almost tempted to order another 3 pack and sell my beast minis. See how the rest of year goes.

 

[Crawdaddy4]

The more I use them the more I like em. I have been up 4 different trees since I got to MN. Solid on every climb. Minimal flex no flexing away from tree. These things were made for packing on the beast stand. They fit center post perfect. I am almost tempted to order another 3 pack and sell my beast minis. See how the rest of year goes.

Let me know how tempted you get and I’ll sell you mine.

 

[BuffaloBill]

The more I use them the more I like em. I have been up 4 different trees since I got to MN. Solid on every climb. Minimal flex no flexing away from tree. These things were made for packing on the beast stand. They fit center post perfect. I am almost tempted to order another 3 pack and sell my beast minis. See how the rest of year goes.

They pack well with the Helo as well. I just stack them on the post and run the strap around them and the post. Very compact and weighs just under 15lbs if I remember correctly.

 

[207bowhunter]

I just bought a set to see how i liked them compared to my tethrd ones. I thought they felt heavier and clunky in the hand , they were loud compared to the ones and yes they stack ok but i wish the stacking was more secure without the strap. The tie off method was complicated compared to the ones... so that was enough cons that they never made it to a tree ended up selling.