I literally couldn't have said it better sir. Thank you for helping me convey my own thoughts
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Let's talk UV: bought a $19 light and made an interesting find
- Thread starter Red Beard
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Well Kind Sir, I happen to be a pretty good Multitasker. I think I can scout, research and post here all at the same time
I've been washing my hunting and hiking clothes in Atsko Sport Wash for probably 10 years (which is UV free, not UV killer/remover), and about 6 years ago I bought their UV light in conjunction with the UV Killer spray. I can't say definitively that it is a game changer, but I can't tell you that it isn't either... I view this as a strong possibility for an advantage in high-pressure areas or for deer that are "on edge". If we're comfortable taking the time and it boosts our confidence, can it really be a negative? I personally will never wash outdoor clothing in a detergent with UV brighteners present...
I do use an ozone generator as a clothes "dry wash" and I do use a scent eliminator spray, but I don't use an Ozonics unit afield. Hunting the wind is still the best way to "control" your scent, because you will never eliminate it fully.
I don't know that I'll ever get sucked into the whole "electro-magnetic field" sense-masking clothing deal...
I do use an ozone generator as a clothes "dry wash" and I do use a scent eliminator spray, but I don't use an Ozonics unit afield. Hunting the wind is still the best way to "control" your scent, because you will never eliminate it fully.
I don't know that I'll ever get sucked into the whole "electro-magnetic field" sense-masking clothing deal...
I just use cold water and borax or baking soda if we out of 20 mules... let them dry outside.
Now I'm confused....u use doe pee or poo to wash your clothes?
In seriousness, this is what i use. The wife is allergic to...everything, I think. This and hot water is all that touches my clothing. No fabric softeners.
So...we need mail containers all around the country to assemble a test pack of detergents and we have @Red Beard examine them with his uv light....
I'll stop picking on u now.....promise
I'll stop picking on u now.....promise
I use this. Good, no brighteners.
www.seventhgeneration.com
We also have All Free and Clear which looks like it contains brighteners. I think my wife used all my 7th Generation.
I have to buy more and hide it.
Laundry Detergent - Free and Clear
Our Laundry Detergent is tough on stains and made from plant-based ingredients. With no dyes, optical brighteners or fragrances, Seventh Generation Laundry Dete
We also have All Free and Clear which looks like it contains brighteners. I think my wife used all my 7th Generation.
I have to buy more and hide it.
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When it rains my outer garments get rinsed off.
Honestly, I can't remember the last time I "washed" my exterior camo layers. Here in the north there's very rarely any way I can sweat on my outer layers anyway.
Just the fact that you are wearing it contaminates it with odor.When it rains my outer garments get rinsed off.
Honestly, I can't remember the last time I "washed" my exterior camo layers. Here in the north there's very rarely any way I can sweat on my outer layers anyway.
One of the biggest lessons on odor a deer taught me was the old doe that smelled a single thumb print of mine. I was walking down a log in order to quietly finish the last 15 yard approach to my tree. I started losing my balance so I reached out to a sapling and steadied myself with one thumb...from a hand that just came out of the shower. Minutes after I settled into the stand, that doe came by and I watched her walk over to that sapling and smell that single thumb print.
Just handling clothes and other gear contaminates stuff. Gotta launder things.
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I think everyone draws their own lines as far as the ways they choose or don’t choose to limit themselves. Really I could make an argument that the decision to eliminate all UV or all scent from your clothes is similar to deciding to use a rifle as opposed to a bow, or a trad bow as opposed to a compound.
It’s all about how we choose to play the game. There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. One guy chooses a bow over a crossbow because he wants the extra challenge of getting the bow back without getting busted. For some other guy even a compound doesn’t feel right to him, he chooses a longbow that’s he knows he’s only good to 17 yards with. Another guy may choose to sit over top of a corn pile with a .270, in a heated box blind, sitting in a lazy boy.
As long as none of the above are breaking laws it’s all good. Each guy draws his own lines. My other post wasn’t meant to be mean spirited. Hope it didn’t come across that way. If it did, I apologize.
Do UV brightened clothes hurt my chances? I don’t know. I want new hunters to know that they don’t have to have all this extra stuff to kill deer. In fact, they don’t have to have it to kill nice bucks either. The hunting industry, whether it’s on purpose or not, tells young or new hunters that they have to have “X” product and if they don’t they aren’t serious hunters. The hunter ends up disappointed when he gets busted and wonders, “how do these deer keep seeing me, I used the product to take out UV, I must need to buy more and wash more often.”
The only real tool besides a weapon is right between the hunters ears.
I think everyone draws their own lines as far as the ways they choose or don’t choose to limit themselves. Really I could make an argument that the decision to eliminate all UV or all scent from your clothes is similar to deciding to use a rifle as opposed to a bow, or a trad bow as opposed to a compound.
It’s all about how we choose to play the game. There’s something to be said for keeping it simple. One guy chooses a bow over a crossbow because he wants the extra challenge of getting the bow back without getting busted. For some other guy even a compound doesn’t feel right to him, he chooses a longbow that’s he knows he’s only good to 17 yards with. Another guy may choose to sit over top of a corn pile with a .270, in a heated box blind, sitting in a lazy boy.
As long as none of the above are breaking laws it’s all good. Each guy draws his own lines. My other post wasn’t meant to be mean spirited. Hope it didn’t come across that way. If it did, I apologize.
Do UV brightened clothes hurt my chances? I don’t know. I want new hunters to know that they don’t have to have all this extra stuff to kill deer. In fact, they don’t have to have it to kill nice bucks either. The hunting industry, whether it’s on purpose or not, tells young or new hunters that they have to have “X” product and if they don’t they aren’t serious hunters. The hunter ends up disappointed when he gets busted and wonders, “how do these deer keep seeing me, I used the product to take out UV, I must need to buy more and wash more often.”
The only real tool besides a weapon is right between the hunters ears.
So this is the stuff I use for my everyday non hunting clothes...
(All Plus Free and Clear for those who can't contort their necks to read it). I forgot I had a UV handheld flashlight that I got for attempting to UV cure some glue. I don't remember what wavelength. Look at what happened when I tried to get some of the beam's spill near the bottle (shining at it was hard to capture on camera). EDIT: I guess the Plus version has the brightners as listed on the label, not sure about the boring non-plus version.
So y'all're telling me, after all this Sitka this and ASAT that, that my flannel and Carhartts left in the mudroom all year were the way to go after all?
To folllow up on the above, I totally forgot I had both All non-plus Free and Clear Pods (to satisfy my millenial tendencies), and a hunting oriented detergent that does say it has UV inhibitors.
To folllow up on the above, I totally forgot I had both All non-plus Free and Clear Pods (to satisfy my millenial tendencies), and a hunting oriented detergent that does say it has UV inhibitors.
Could you re-do this is an opaque container for all products? I think the clear cup and pouch are reflecting and refracting the uv torch.
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Alrighty, laundry day, and found a scrap piece of camo fleece material. Poked a small hole into one of the All Free and Clear Pods. Left to Right is hunting detergent, All free and clear pod juice, All free and clear + liquid detergent.
I usually buy the stuff on clearance after the season ends. But I often skip the hunting detergents and just use baking soda instead. To me, using either specific detergent or just plain baking soda is worth it to not risk messing up the clothing that you spent your money on.
I usually buy the stuff on clearance after the season ends. But I often skip the hunting detergents and just use baking soda instead. To me, using either specific detergent or just plain baking soda is worth it to not risk messing up the clothing that you spent your money on.
I use 20 mule team borax on my solid od green coat, shirts, pants and the blue Jean's that I hunt out of. Long as you're still I have no problem getting picked off. Also I will add that is absurdly amazing on how good a deers nose is. A buddy sent me some video clips from his game camera a few weeks ago of a big buck freaking out over where he had sat down his backpack 5 days beforehand when he hung the camera! If there wasnt video evidence I would not of believed it. If I get the ok from him I'll post um up.