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Linemans rope safety
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Is the paracord large enough or would a larger diameter rope work better?
Black Titan
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I like that. Very simple! Does it perform the same function as a tether locker like the ohm?
How do you like your bridge when climbing? Long or short? I tried long in my last climb and my madrock smacked off my top platform. I may as well have just rang a darn gong. I will be experimenting later with a couple different things and going to try a shorter bridge while climbing.
BT
It's all about the cantilever action.....think about the ring on a pipe clamp.....if the ring is 90 degrees to the pipe the clamp slides freely up and down the pipe but once the spring pushes the ring into a cantilevered position the clamp grabs and u can crank on it
90 degrees....u can slide up and down
Cantilevered it locks in
90 degrees....u can slide up and down
Cantilevered it locks in
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you guys would hate the way I one stick. 
Well shoot... I'll give it a try *ahem*:
Climbing trees is inherently dangerous something something most humans who climb trees do it to get people to like them. Something something JX3 something something I only climb a tree when there's a 76% or greater likelihood I will see deer. Something something 50% success rate on out of state P&Y bucks something something elk steaks.
I wasn’t even gunna comment on this because I’m “not qualified”. But my kids are all home sick so I have time and opinions.
I would argue, not forcefully, that the only way to learn for 90% of us or more is to use the internet. Before forums like this and every manner of good and bad YT video, the practices were a lot scarier. A LOT. And I don’t think you should be offering “safety tips” or “advice” if you’re genuinely not “qualified”. I’m just saying the videos where dudes be like “I’m not saying this is advice, I’m just saying this is how I do it and you take your own decisions into your own hands” are legitimately good ways to advance knowledge. Citizen science if you will. If your BS filter isn’t up to snuff then you’re going to have problems no matter how you choose to hunt. I can personally watch a video and decide whether the person in it should be giving me tips. Quickly. I realize not everyone is that way but that ain’t my problem. “Your” stupidity is not a reason to limit my consumption of information, and my concept of safety is not “your” problem to solve. I think it’s important to wave the safety flags, but let’s just be a hundo with each other: we all do stuff that we learned from someone who may indeed be but probably isn’t qualified to show us. Raise your hand if you learned something from DIY Sportsman, Boswell, THP, Eberhart, Greg and Ernie or other Tethrd bros, Spencer the Saddle Hunter, an arborist climbing channel, NY Saddle Hunter, ANY MEMBER OF THIS OR ANY OTHER FORUM…the list goes on and on. Don’t pretend you never have. The amount of times @Brocky and @Fl Canopy Stalker and others get tagged to vet posts like this just shows how we’re ALL willing to trust who we’re willing to trust (“obviously” we can all agree they’re qualified, no? Jeez I’m starting to sound like T-Gunnah. He’ll troll his way in here eventually). And we all rationalize it in our own ways. And whether it’s actually safe or not is almost irrelevant to whether we do it because we do in fact, do it.
This is probably not the thread for all that though.
Here’s what I think of this video:
Guy looks like he understands his own climbing system. He does sound a little like a dollar store JRB and I don’t think he knows or understands all the fancy wording he’s using, but that’s a thing we apes do when attempting to seem more credible. My high school history teacher called it shoveling the s***; best if you just shovel it right out. A 4min video saying “this is how I ‘manage slack’ when I climb” and without flowery language would have been more appropriate and effective IMO. But his technique seems on the level mostly. Using hips to hold line taut, pushing back with foot and giving yourself room to work while keeping a high angle on the LB…that’s how I climb, without an aider or etrier on steps and sticks. Juuuuuuuust enough slack to get my arms inside to work and climb, not enough to slide down the tree more than a few inches and never ever let LB get below my hips.
Again, not advice.
Told you I had time to kill…
I would argue, not forcefully, that the only way to learn for 90% of us or more is to use the internet. Before forums like this and every manner of good and bad YT video, the practices were a lot scarier. A LOT. And I don’t think you should be offering “safety tips” or “advice” if you’re genuinely not “qualified”. I’m just saying the videos where dudes be like “I’m not saying this is advice, I’m just saying this is how I do it and you take your own decisions into your own hands” are legitimately good ways to advance knowledge. Citizen science if you will. If your BS filter isn’t up to snuff then you’re going to have problems no matter how you choose to hunt. I can personally watch a video and decide whether the person in it should be giving me tips. Quickly. I realize not everyone is that way but that ain’t my problem. “Your” stupidity is not a reason to limit my consumption of information, and my concept of safety is not “your” problem to solve. I think it’s important to wave the safety flags, but let’s just be a hundo with each other: we all do stuff that we learned from someone who may indeed be but probably isn’t qualified to show us. Raise your hand if you learned something from DIY Sportsman, Boswell, THP, Eberhart, Greg and Ernie or other Tethrd bros, Spencer the Saddle Hunter, an arborist climbing channel, NY Saddle Hunter, ANY MEMBER OF THIS OR ANY OTHER FORUM…the list goes on and on. Don’t pretend you never have. The amount of times @Brocky and @Fl Canopy Stalker and others get tagged to vet posts like this just shows how we’re ALL willing to trust who we’re willing to trust (“obviously” we can all agree they’re qualified, no? Jeez I’m starting to sound like T-Gunnah. He’ll troll his way in here eventually). And we all rationalize it in our own ways. And whether it’s actually safe or not is almost irrelevant to whether we do it because we do in fact, do it.
This is probably not the thread for all that though.
Here’s what I think of this video:
Guy looks like he understands his own climbing system. He does sound a little like a dollar store JRB and I don’t think he knows or understands all the fancy wording he’s using, but that’s a thing we apes do when attempting to seem more credible. My high school history teacher called it shoveling the s***; best if you just shovel it right out. A 4min video saying “this is how I ‘manage slack’ when I climb” and without flowery language would have been more appropriate and effective IMO. But his technique seems on the level mostly. Using hips to hold line taut, pushing back with foot and giving yourself room to work while keeping a high angle on the LB…that’s how I climb, without an aider or etrier on steps and sticks. Juuuuuuuust enough slack to get my arms inside to work and climb, not enough to slide down the tree more than a few inches and never ever let LB get below my hips.
Again, not advice.
Told you I had time to kill…
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So far it’s fine. I give the QL an inch or two of wiggle. I could see using 1100 paracord or a 3-5mm diameter accessory cord but it will add bulk. Negligible probably. Would add some stability I’d guess.
Yeah locks it right in. I use sticks or steps mostly so this is for rappel rope.
I never adjust my bridge if I can help it. It’s always pretty short. I’m not tall. It’s at most 16” from loop to loop. I have climbed with sticks and a long line in a sketchy walnut tree I used to hunt, having to switch load between sticks and line on certain moves, and I slid the hitch as high as I could possibly get it on my tip toe before setting weight into line, then vice versa when setting back onto sticks. Bridge behaved just fine. I do carry a sling and some extra 8mm cord if I need to fix up a “belay loop” or shorter bridge or something, or tie a quick prusik to my bridge so I can connect.
Life is about options lol.
What do you mean? You have the same thoughts?
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When you tried this with an aider did it happen to have a spreader bar on top? I'm thinking more like a big wall ladder than what we refer to as aiders around here
The crying would be intense watching me also. pretty soon they will have us tying off to walk thru the woodsyou guys would hate the way I one stick.
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I'm not sure Cantilevered is the right word? Not sure what the correct word is either, but that's not what I understand as cantilevered (supported on one end only)