So quick story to last night. Heard some deer go threw the creek on our back side. Never saw them. Last 45 minutes my son is out of patience. Wants to move, we saw more deer last time. So we packaged up right at sunset with half hour of shooting light. Made lots of noise. Told him we would walk slowly walk up over the ridge and maybe see a deer on the other side. Well, we did. Even with him dragging his boots thru the grass, me telling him to get back and not to far ahead. I peek over the top and see a body. We drop down. I range it about 30yards. So we packed up about 60-70yards from them. Made all kinds of nosie walking over. She was facing towards us. We tried to get a little close to where I could set the crossbow up so he could see and shoot over the short grass. Well, she picks her head up, sees us, and bolts. So story is yes. If he was older and we could have crawled, we could have got a shot. But no way he could have positioned the crossbow to make that shot with out me helping to hold it. If we were in the tree we would have seen them. So there was an opportunity there to be had.