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LIVE from the saddle 2023

Back to it. Stuck a camera on a new rub near a tree I’ve hunted earlier this season. Less than 48 hours later there are two different bucks on it. One I’ve seen a mile away at my house. One brand new that was here at 1 pm yesterday. Unfortunately there was someone walking around here today at 115 (got him on camera) so who knows if the bucks around. No daylight does unfortunately which is what I was hoping for. No biggie. I’m up here now.

Also, made it into the tree with no issues (2tc). Quickest up yet. If down goes as smooth I’ll call it progress. I set up a different angle to how I normally do from feedback in my other thread. It’s better for me seeing things but I feel more exposed.
 
Scouted two miles and found a stand of 3 cow oaks dropping, caps everywhere, with a fresh (small) rub and scrape about 30 yards off. I climbed the tree with a strong N wind and of course after sitting for ten minutes, it is now out of the West… not totally screwing me as I’m south of the acorns but gosh darn, I swear this ALWAYS happens to me.
 
Scouted two miles and found a stand of 3 cow oaks dropping, caps everywhere, with a fresh (small) rub and scrape about 30 yards off. I climbed the tree with a strong N wind and of course after sitting for ten minutes, it is now out of the West… not totally screwing me as I’m south of the acorns but gosh darn, I swear this ALWAYS happens to me.
Dont let it bother you, it just is what it is in the bottoms. Play it the best you can and hope for the best.
 
Back to it. Stuck a camera on a new rub near a tree I’ve hunted earlier this season. Less than 48 hours later there are two different bucks on it. One I’ve seen a mile away at my house. One brand new that was here at 1 pm yesterday. Unfortunately there was someone walking around here today at 115 (got him on camera) so who knows if the bucks around. No daylight does unfortunately which is what I was hoping for. No biggie. I’m up here now.

Also, made it into the tree with no issues (2tc). Quickest up yet. If down goes as smooth I’ll call it progress. I set up a different angle to how I normally do from feedback in my other thread. It’s better for me seeing things but I feel more exposed.

with 30 minutes of shooting light I heard some very light crunching behind me. Of course it was at my 6:00 (would have been 8:00 the way I was in the tree last couple times). It was a pair of does creeping in. They were on the thickest trail in there so I had to wait them out. One stopped at 20 yards behind vines and trees while the other kept moseying. When she hit the clearing at 20 yards I let fly and put it through her. Full pass through, the type where the lumenock is out the other side like it never hit the deer. Replaying the shot I’m sure it was inline with the back of the leg and she was pretty much dead on broadside. She bounced 40 yards and stopped. I thought she’d fall over right there but I didn’t hear a crash. I also didn’t hear the other deer take out so I grabbed another arrow blind and nocked it. She basically didn’t move on the shot and was trying to piece together what she was looking at up in the tree. After 2 minutes that felt like eternity she started moseying again to my 4:00. When she got behind a tree I drew back but coming out the other side I didn’t have a clean shot so I had to hold. And hold. And hold. It was well over 3 minutes. I was bracing my arm on the tree behind me and my bottom cam on my leg. I couldn’t let down because as soon as she took a half step her head was out and I wouldn’t get to draw. So I held some more. She finally took 3 quick steps and stopped. I centered the pin on her vitals and loosed the arrow. I watched the nock zip through her and knew it was back and a little high. Holding that long I think my arm just gave way at the shot and I lost my form. I thought I was going to have a tracking job on her until she stopped after 30 yards and plowed her nose into the ground.

Since I could see the second on the ground, I went for the first while I still had a little light. Surprisingly there wasn’t nearly the blood I was expecting. Blops and small puddles, followed by a couple drops for 10 yards. I followed that for 60 yards or so, across a road and down a trail. The blood picked up more from yards 60-80 and I found a good puddle where she must have stopped. I stopped the track there because
I needed to get home sooner than later. So went back to the first deer, recovered her and got her into the truck. Waiting at home now for my wife to get home to go track the second.

Im replaying the shot in my head and still haven’t figured out what isn’t right. I think I entered/hit 1/3 down from the top and in line with the leg. On a broadside deer that should be double lung, coming out in the lower half of the deer with sprayed blood (I was about 25’ up). Thinking through possibilities, if I hit higher than that then it could be single back lung but I don’t think so. Theres no bubbles in any of the blood and no spray. If the deer was slightly quartering to then it would be single lung and liver at that entry. Again, no bubbles. Any further forward and it would be muscle plus I would have expected to hit bone/blade which would have limited penetration. She didn’t react like I hit anything solid. If she was quartering to and I am a little further back that could be a liver shot. She didn’t react heavy, just jumped, ran 30 yards, and walked the rest. That is a soft tissue hit for me, maybe liver, definitely not bone. The blood on the ground and arrow was fresh bright red blood which tells me arterial. There wasn’t a ton of blood on the arrow and there was a good bit of fat. Fat could be brisket if I am forward but I don’t think I’m that far forward and down. The doe I already recovered had a good bit of fat in her. Maybe I hit where I think but came out through the opposite leg which wiped the arrow and slowed the blood.

either way, I’m going to give it a few hours of looking tonight until I burn all the batteries in the lights. If she sits overnight I’m pretty sure coyotes will get her.
 
with 30 minutes of shooting light I heard some very light crunching behind me. Of course it was at my 6:00 (would have been 8:00 the way I was in the tree last couple times). It was a pair of does creeping in. They were on the thickest trail in there so I had to wait them out. One stopped at 20 yards behind vines and trees while the other kept moseying. When she hit the clearing at 20 yards I let fly and put it through her. Full pass through, the type where the lumenock is out the other side like it never hit the deer. Replaying the shot I’m sure it was inline with the back of the leg and she was pretty much dead on broadside. She bounced 40 yards and stopped. I thought she’d fall over right there but I didn’t hear a crash. I also didn’t hear the other deer take out so I grabbed another arrow blind and nocked it. She basically didn’t move on the shot and was trying to piece together what she was looking at up in the tree. After 2 minutes that felt like eternity she started moseying again to my 4:00. When she got behind a tree I drew back but coming out the other side I didn’t have a clean shot so I had to hold. And hold. And hold. It was well over 3 minutes. I was bracing my arm on the tree behind me and my bottom cam on my leg. I couldn’t let down because as soon as she took a half step her head was out and I wouldn’t get to draw. So I held some more. She finally took 3 quick steps and stopped. I centered the pin on her vitals and loosed the arrow. I watched the nock zip through her and knew it was back and a little high. Holding that long I think my arm just gave way at the shot and I lost my form. I thought I was going to have a tracking job on her until she stopped after 30 yards and plowed her nose into the ground.

Since I could see the second on the ground, I went for the first while I still had a little light. Surprisingly there wasn’t nearly the blood I was expecting. Blops and small puddles, followed by a couple drops for 10 yards. I followed that for 60 yards or so, across a road and down a trail. The blood picked up more from yards 60-80 and I found a good puddle where she must have stopped. I stopped the track there because
I needed to get home sooner than later. So went back to the first deer, recovered her and got her into the truck. Waiting at home now for my wife to get home to go track the second.

Im replaying the shot in my head and still haven’t figured out what isn’t right. I think I entered/hit 1/3 down from the top and in line with the leg. On a broadside deer that should be double lung, coming out in the lower half of the deer with sprayed blood (I was about 25’ up). Thinking through possibilities, if I hit higher than that then it could be single back lung but I don’t think so. Theres no bubbles in any of the blood and no spray. If the deer was slightly quartering to then it would be single lung and liver at that entry. Again, no bubbles. Any further forward and it would be muscle plus I would have expected to hit bone/blade which would have limited penetration. She didn’t react like I hit anything solid. If she was quartering to and I am a little further back that could be a liver shot. She didn’t react heavy, just jumped, ran 30 yards, and walked the rest. That is a soft tissue hit for me, maybe liver, definitely not bone. The blood on the ground and arrow was fresh bright red blood which tells me arterial. There wasn’t a ton of blood on the arrow and there was a good bit of fat. Fat could be brisket if I am forward but I don’t think I’m that far forward and down. The doe I already recovered had a good bit of fat in her. Maybe I hit where I think but came out through the opposite leg which wiped the arrow and slowed the blood.

either way, I’m going to give it a few hours of looking tonight until I burn all the batteries in the lights. If she sits overnight I’m pretty sure coyotes will get her.
On the trail. Made 50 yards pretty quickly. Offside shoulder is bleeding about knee high as she goes past this ragweed. That’s a positive sign for me. But still not much blood.
 
On the trail. Made 50 yards pretty quickly. Offside shoulder is bleeding about knee high as she goes past this ragweed. That’s a positive sign for me. But still not much blood.
Tracked for 2 hours, made 1/4 mile before losing blood. Was giving up for the night and trying to get out of the woods and stumbled on three more drips. Tried to pick up the track again but couldn’t find any more.

Im pretty sure it’s a high/forward muscle hit. All of the blood was bright muscle blood with a couple clots. Mostly drips as it walked and a couple small puddles where it stopped. The puddles got smaller the further you went into the track and the drips disappeared. I think it clotted over or sealed up with fat. Replaying it back in my head, I remember I heard a pop on the shot. I thought it was the arrow hitting something in the ground on the other side but I think now it was the scapula. That would explain why the arrow wasn’t burried in the ground but did pass through. The other deer I shot passed through and stuck in a log. This one was laying loose in the weeds. Scapula plus muscle means enough friction to slow it down. High through the body would also explain why my nock barely disappeared as it passed through- it wasn’t passing through much thickness and came out high. I think I overestimated the angle and aimed high like I should for a closer shot but 25’ up and 22 yards out should just be middle of body. This one will keep walking.
 
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Probably last archery hunt. Muzzleloader starts tomorrow
 
Was getting this buck several times right behind a doe this morning. Looks likes the pre-rut/rut is right around the corner. Ditched work to at least give myself an opportunity at him. Had several small bucks and some does all around me as I went in. None of them blew. Wind is out of the S with thunderstorms forecasted for tonight and all day tomorrow. Maybe something crazy will happen. 3B2DEAAB-6A00-4DA6-BE50-08CB330DB4DA.jpegAAB2A0D8-E641-40FB-B04E-ED550D15383E.jpeg
 
Was getting this buck several times right behind a doe this morning. Looks likes the pre-rut/rut is right around the corner. Ditched work to at least give myself an opportunity at him. Had several small bucks and some does all around me as I went in. None of them blew. Wind is out of the S with thunderstorms forecasted for tonight and all day tomorrow. Maybe something crazy will happen. View attachment 96537View attachment 96538
I’d be shocked if that buck isn’t 5YO+. My lawsy laws he’s a stunnah! Like Stallone in Rocky 6.
 
7 doe just came in. Right out of stick bow range and through thick stuff. They stopped at my trail in and fed and slowly and went back the way they came after 15 mins now are coming around my back side trying to wind me lol really want to hold off for a buck and these group of doe are hard hunting
 
Almost had a chance at the big boy, so I had those seven doe around me for about 30 minutes and they would walk all the way up to my tree and then they would kind of get spooked and back off. They kept doing that two or three times and it was getting close to last light and I really wanted them to just move on at this point. Finally I did the grunt call a couple times trying to spook the does but it brought in that big buck that I had on camera and he went straight through the middle of them running those does all over the place looking for a hot doe or a fight. He came in to about 30 yards but not enough for a shot with a recurve and it was too thick. Even after he left, I had two does and two fawns walk all the way up to under my tree and stay there for like 10 minutes just sniffing my tree. After about another 10 minutes I finally got fed up and tried to take a picture of them with my phone but the flash scared them barely. They stood at 10 yards for another 10 minutes until I couldn’t take it anymore. Kind of scared them off a little bit but even then they hung around as I climbed down weirdest thing I've seen.
 
Almost had a chance at the big boy, so I had those seven doe around me for about 30 minutes and they would walk all the way up to my tree and then they would kind of get spooked and back off. They kept doing that two or three times and it was getting close to last light and I really wanted them to just move on at this point. Finally I did the grunt call a couple times trying to spook the does but it brought in that big buck that I had on camera and he went straight through the middle of them running those does all over the place looking for a hot doe or a fight. He came in to about 30 yards but not enough for a shot with a recurve and it was too thick. Even after he left, I had two does and two fawns walk all the way up to under my tree and stay there for like 10 minutes just sniffing my tree. After about another 10 minutes I finally got fed up and tried to take a picture of them with my phone but the flash scared them barely. They stood at 10 yards for another 10 minutes until I couldn’t take it anymore. Kind of scared them off a little bit but even then they hung around as I climbed down weirdest thing I've seen.

As soon as that rain breaks get back in there!
 
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Probably last archery hunt. Muzzleloader starts tomorrow

I feel you. This week is the 6 day gun season for nj. Tomorrow is the only Saturday. this evening there were trucks and hunters everywhere. Tomorrow is going to be nuts. I’m going fishing. Monday won’t be much different to tomorrow except for my safety and sanity.

also, what’s the logic for the double beaner and ropeman? I can’t see what it’s connecting to.
 
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Got up super silently (for once), saw a good buck at 70 yds right after legal light, stopped when I grunted but I think he’s bedded within 100 yds. There’s a fat squirrel trynna 2TC a big walnut tree, making slow progress. He might get a judo. It’s warm for December, but it feels like a deer kinda day so fingies crossed.
 
I'm out, was super foggy this AM and haven't seen anything but birds and squirrels. found some sign and stumbled on a bucket in the woods lol didn't use it but walked a bit further and climbed a tree. the places I wanted to head I saw headlamps so I'm winging it even more than plannedScreenshot_20231209-102619.pngMay give up on the rifle and head to my bow area this evening, I dunno. Forgot to put the sling back in my rifle so that's a bit annoying but I have a rifle carrier on my pack and it rests on the bridge fine. Forgot my lunch sammich too d'oh!

Edit: 2 pm getting food and going back out with the bow. All I saw was the orange army out in force. Decided to leave when I had two guys walk through the woods beneath me and not a single deer was seen. Saw quite a few more on the walk out.

Edit: 3pm back out with the bow in an archery only area. Only one truck at this parking lot compared to 10 at the last one. Hopefully he walked a different way. We shall see what the evening has in store...
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Edit: 4 pm had a turkey come check things out but no deer yet. Not sure what's more quiet today, the deer or the forum...
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Last talking to myself edit lol. Back at the truck, no deer today.
 
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Back in the same tree, just defining insanity. I’m seeing deer, I’m just not shooting at them yet. Got drawn on one from here but she pegged me. This is my 4th sit in it, and bucks were below it an hour before I got here. Spooked one on the way in. So I’m kiiiinda in the right place. But I may need to find a tree 30-50 yds from here to really be in the action.
Got Miss November out there playing Marilyn Mon-doe to see what we can see.
 
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Back in the same tree, just defining insanity. I’m seeing deer, I’m just not shooting at them yet. Got drawn on one from here but she pegged me. This is my 4th sit in it, and bucks were below it an hour before I got here. Spooked one on the way in. So I’m kiiiinda in the right place. But I may need to find a tree 30-50 yds from here to really be in the action.
Got Miss November out there playing Marilyn Mon-doe to see what we can see.
Nothing but squirrels. Got down, grabbed the drill and 7 screw-in steps, and prepped a new tree right over the main trail I’ve been watching them travel. This is a highly aggressive move for my usually conservative hunting sensibilities. I actually still had reflective tacks on this tree from 3 seasons ago, but I plum forgot and never prepped it. It’s right on the edge of bedding, and will require extra stealth, but having the screw steps already there should make things quieter and quicker. Next week will be the first hunt from it if the wind cooperates.
 
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