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LWCG Crossover Climber

I wish Novix would work on a climber. They don’t seem interested. They’d rather produce $700 ladder stands. Take the Helo platform and make a climber out of it.

Last I looked the majority of hunters are still over the age of 40. Most of them probably grew up on ladder stands and prefer them. So it's probably not a bad business decision to work on ladder stands just based on data.
 
I listed to the working class podcast with Novix about a week or two ago and there were some hints dropped. I believe a climber from Novix may be coming but I could be way off…time will tell. My bet is the seat could double as a saddle platform.


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The fact that there isn’t already a decent LW hand-climber seat style climbing platform for saddlehunting is confounding.

I don’t know that Novix can do much better than the LW Assault Hand Climber for total stand weight, at least following their current blueprint. Maybe they can come up with some better nesting with how they construct the casts and offer small efficiencies.

A mid-priced 14lb(ish) climber will appeal to the $1k is to much but I want a lightweight climber sector.
 
The OG mobile hunters around these parts all have been using climbers since the 90's and beyond. Many of them still are. They work quite well in this region, most of our public hunting is in pole timber. I find it odd with mobile hunting being the huge fad that there aren't a few more good options out there. Someone needs to revive the Loggy brand or at least copy it, because their design was superior to the two-piece.
Didnt Muddy buy Loggy back in the day. They sure did a direct copy of the Loggy hang-on.
 
Didnt Muddy buy Loggy back in the day. They sure did a direct copy of the Loggy hang-on.
I don't really know. What I think I remember hearing was a bad batch of bands on the original design led to a bunch of lawsuits that sunk them.

Then someone else revived them with cables, but that only lasted a year or two.

The platform cam over platform design is great though. Combined with tether climbing techniques you could get something decently sizable that locks onto the tree for <10 lbs. A machined copycat would be stupid light.
 
I don't really know. What I think I remember hearing was a bad batch of bands on the original design led to a bunch of lawsuits that sunk them.

Then someone else revived them with cables, but that only lasted a year or two.

The platform cam over platform design is great though. Combined with tether climbing techniques you could get something decently sizable that locks onto the tree for <10 lbs. A machined copycat would be stupid light.
I am still using a Loggy Bayou Predator Pro. I think that may have been their last model, not sure. But that is the stand Muddy rolled out with I am almost positive.

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I wonder if the new product announcements and pre orders are a way of testing out the market. With the direct feedback that forums like this create, manufacturers must be able to gauge product interest in ways that simply didn’t exist in the past. Not that long ago a small company like LW could easily screw themselves with new product releases by investing in inventory that would just sit in the stock shelf, or by just the opposite - creating a product and not being able to keep up with demand.
 
I wonder if the new product announcements and pre orders are a way of testing out the market. With the direct feedback that forums like this create, manufacturers must be able to gauge product interest in ways that simply didn’t exist in the past. Not that long ago a small company like LW could easily screw themselves with new product releases by investing in inventory that would just sit in the stock shelf, or by just the opposite - creating a product and not being able to keep up with demand.

Lol, the LW Assassin Sat on the shelves and the Saddlehunting.com sticks, I mean Tethrd ONE sticks, can’t meet demand.
 
Got my new climer in the mail today. The good. It seems well built and very quiet to set up and tear down. Very aggressive bite on the tree. I didn't climb with it because it was dark when I got it from UPS. I just set it up and sat on it for a minute. It came with the backpack harness and all assembled.

The bad. It weights 13 pounds which is a pound heavier than I was expecting. I will take the pack harness off and see how much it weights without it. I also thought that it was going to come with a seat cushion that you could remove. Mine came with just the strap seat. I will email them tomorrow and ask about the seat.

Not sure how much I will get to hunt out of it the rest of this year but hopefully get to use it a couple times before the end of the season.
 

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Got my new climer in the mail today. The good. It seems well built and very quiet to set up and tear down. Very aggressive bite on the tree. I didn't climb with it because it was dark when I got it from UPS. I just set it up and sat on it for a minute. It came with the backpack harness and all assembled.

The bad. It weights 13 pounds which is a pound heavier than I was expecting. I will take the pack harness off and see how much it weights without it. I also thought that it was going to come with a seat cushion that you could remove. Mine came with just the strap seat. I will email them tomorrow and ask about the seat.

Not sure how much I will get to hunt out of it the rest of this year but hopefully get to use it a couple times before the end of the season.
How comfortable is the webbing seat?
 
I didn't sit in it long but it felt more comfortable than I thought it would. I think if you have the seat height in the right spot it will be fine but I need to put some ass time on it to know for sure.
 
At 13lbs I just assume wait for the xop to drop next year at half the price, same weight and a bigger platform.
 
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