Multi pin vs one pin

[Bonzikilla]

Hey guys, so I’m contemplating on switching to a single pin for deer season but not 100% convinced. I use one pin for turkey, but it was a old multi pin and I ripped the other 4 pins out ( I don’t shoot further than 20-25 yards) just wanted a little input before I jumped the gun. Thanks!!

 

[thedutchtouch]

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[TooheyBirdie]

I like my single pin but there are times when I wish I had a 2 or 3 pin slider... I've had to sneak to adjust the sight a couple times when a deer was right near... I definitely like it more than a 5 pin though

 

[Camelcluch]

I’m not big on single pins but they are a great sight picture. How about a dual pin? Give something extra if yardage changes quick.

 

[Tim0712]

I run my single pins at 30 yards and I’m good from 10-40. Modern bows are so fast that unless you’re shooting stupid heavy arrows you don’t move much to compensate. I’m also color blind and my eyes are sub par so I physically cannot use a multi pin sight it just looks like one big blob of colors

 

[DroptineKrazy]

Been using just 1 pin for about the last 150 years Seriously though, I switched a long time ago to just one pin and have never looked back. I've shot deer from 8 out to 49 yards with just one pin because I shoot enough to know where my arrow is going to hit regardless of the distance. Within most normal hunting distances of course.

 

[BuckeyeBowman]

I went from a 3 pin to a Tommy hog single pin and my accuracy seemed to improve. Maybe it’s all mental but I group better now. I just set it at 27 yards and it works for my Ohio woods hunting distances. Couldn’t be happier

 

[Plebe]

Without knowing your arrow speed, it’s hard to make a recommendation.

You should take shots from 5 to 25yds using a single pin and measure the drop. It’s most likely small enough that for your ranges a single pin will suit you. But possibly not.

It’s all about matching equipment performance and your own comfort level. I wouldn’t jump on recommendations that aren’t tailored to you.

 

[TommyDee]

I’m considering the switch as well, I think I’ll prefer the site picture during 3D shoots, and for whitetail i don’t plan on anything outside of 25. I’ll set to 20 and never move. To plebe’s point, i still shoot relatively light/fast arrows. Any favorites that won’t completely break the bank? <$275? Shooting a PSE NXT 31” draw, 65 lb.

 

[Halfstep]

Without knowing your arrow speed, it’s hard to make a recommendation.

You should take shots from 5 to 25yds using a single pin and measure the drop. It’s most likely small enough that for your ranges a single pin will suit you. But possibly not.

It’s all about matching equipment performance and your own comfort level. I wouldn’t jump on recommendations that aren’t tailored to you.

I agree, the speed needs to be known or estimated. But instead of 5 yards, I would shoot 12 to 40 yards to calculate the drop. Anything under 10 yards will most likely give you some confusing results. Under 10 yards can cause you sight marking to be way off and depending on your peep height, it can be quite a bit. The lower the peep, the shorter the distance one can shoot at without it reversing and the higher to peep, the longer the distance one needs to shoot at to avoid the reversing.

At some 3D shoots I have been to in the distant past, there would be a target set up at 3 yards. To correctly hit it, you had to aim as if it was 75-80 yards.

As for 1 pin, I have hunted with 1 pin for many years. I am deadly from 10 to 40 yards. The sight picture is clean and uncluttered making for better low-light hunting. With modern fast bows, multiple pins can be closely stacked together, and this can block a lot of the sight picture. This can be difficult in low light to see the deer thru all the pins.

For a hunting range of 40 yards or less,
280 or more fps, 1 pin works well.
250 to 280 fps, 2 pins works well.
250 or less fps, 3 pins works well.

If your hunting range is 50-60 yards, you will need to add an extra pin or two to cover the increased range.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

I use a single pin on both of my hunting compounds. One is set at 60 pounds the other at 44 pounds. Both are tuned to a 585 grain arrow. I don't shoot past about 25 yards with most opportunities being from 12 to 20 yards. I set the sights on each for about 22 yards. If the deer is really close, just hold an inch or two low, if they are at 25ish, just hold an inch or two high. The main thing is set it and then practice a lot and learn to shoot from weird angles and unknown yardage (within that 25 or so yard max). After a while shooting just runs on auto pilot. I can pay attention to the deer and not worry about the bow. It works for me.

 

[Bonzikilla]

I like my single pin but there are times when I wish I had a 2 or 3 pin slider... I've had to sneak to adjust the sight a couple times when a deer was right near... I definitely like it more than a 5 pin though

Thanks bro I’ll do some research on them. I have never tried.

 

[chaded]

I like a dual vertical pin sight. Top pin is 20 and bottom is 30. I have a black gold dual tract so i can adjust both pins on a slider. So I can practice out to 80-90 (with my setup) but when it comes to hunting both 20 and 30 are there and I don’t have to touch anything.

 

[Plebe]

I agree, the speed needs to be known or estimated. But instead of 5 yards, I would shoot 12 to 40 yards to calculate the drop. Anything under 10 yards will most likely give you some confusing results. Under 10 yards can cause you sight marking to be way off and depending on your peep height, it can be quite a bit. The lower the peep, the shorter the distance one can shoot at without it reversing and the higher to peep, the longer the distance one needs to shoot at to avoid the reversing.

At some 3D shoots I have been to in the distant past, there would be a target set up at 3 yards. To correctly hit it, you had to aim as if it was 75-80 yards.

As for 1 pin, I have hunted with 1 pin for many years. I am deadly from 10 to 40 yards. The sight picture is clean and uncluttered making for better low-light hunting. With modern fast bows, multiple pins can be closely stacked together, and this can block a lot of the sight picture. This can be difficult in low light to see the deer thru all the pins.

For a hunting range of 40 yards or less,
280 or more fps, 1 pin works well.
250 to 280 fps, 2 pins works well.
250 or less fps, 3 pins works well.

If your hunting range is 50-60 yards, you will need to add an extra pin or two to cover the increased range.

Everything you wrote is of course true, but goes beyond the scope of this shooter imo.

Max range was stated as 20-25yds. I think it makes sense to see what the bow does with a single pin at 25 and under then. A 5 yard shot will show what the bow does at 5 yds. High, low, on target; good to know whatever the outcome. Look at all the datapoints from 25 and make the decision, imo, since that’s the application.

I shoot 5yds regularly to convince myself I don’t need to use my long distance pin like everyone tells me I need to do. My top pin gets me the bullseye to 25yds. I’m a cell phone length of max deviation from 5 to 35yds. I use 2 pins when hunting. I have a 3rd pin I use for target practice at longer ranges.

 

[Bonzikilla]

Without knowing your arrow speed, it’s hard to make a recommendation.

You should take shots from 5 to 25yds using a single pin and measure the drop. It’s most likely small enough that for your ranges a single pin will suit you. But possibly not.

It’s all about matching equipment performance and your own comfort level. I wouldn’t jump on recommendations that aren’t tailored to

Everything you wrote is of course true, but goes beyond the scope of this shooter imo.

Max range was stated as 20-25yds. I think it makes sense to see what the bow does with a single pin at 25 and under then. A 5 yard shot will show what the bow does at 5 yds. High, low, on target; good to know whatever the outcome. Look at all the datapoints from 25 and make the decision, imo, since that’s the application.

I shoot 5yds regularly to convince myself I don’t need to use my long distance pin like everyone tells me I need to do. My top pin gets me the bullseye to 25yds. I’m a cell phone length of max deviation from 5 to 35yds. I use 2 pins when hunting. I have a 3rd pin I use for target practice at longer ranges.

Thanks for the input brother, I'm shooting a Mathews tx5 60 lbs draw 28-inch draw and 400 grain arrows.

 

[Bonzikilla]

I use a single pin on both of my hunting compounds. One is set at 60 pounds the other at 44 pounds. Both are tuned to a 585 grain arrow. I don't shoot past about 25 yards with most opportunities being from 12 to 20 yards. I set the sights on each for about 22 yards. If the deer is really close, just hold an inch or two low, if they are at 25ish, just hold an inch or two high. The main thing is set it and then practice a lot and learn to shoot from weird angles and unknown yardage (within that 25 or so yard max). After a while shooting just runs on auto pilot. I can pay attention to the deer and not worry about the bow. It works for me

Thanks for the input bro I'll have to check it out. I have my deer bow set to 60 lbs and my turkey bow set to 45 so I get what your are saying. I am just switching some stuff up for next season. If needed i do float my pin already in some situations for practice, so maybe a one pin might work for me.

 

[Bonzikilla]

I like a dual vertical pin sight. Top pin is 20 and bottom is 30. I have a black gold dual tract so i can adjust both pins on a slider. So I can practice out to 80-90 (with my setup) but when it comes to hunting both 20 and 30 are there and I don’t have to touch anything.

I will do some research thanks bro. I have never used a dual vertical pin before. thanks bro

 

[Bonzikilla]

I’m considering the switch as well, I think I’ll prefer the site picture during 3D shoots, and for whitetail i don’t plan on anything outside of 25. I’ll set to 20 and never move. To plebe’s point, i still shoot relatively light/fast arrows. Any favorites that won’t completely break the bank? <$275? Shooting a PSE NXT 31” draw, 65 lb.

I currently just switched over to vap tko elites Fly awesome. Yea you have a good point set to 20 and leave alone most likely what I would do.

 

[Bonzikilla]

Been using just 1 pin for about the last 150 years Seriously though, I switched a long time ago to just one pin and have never looked back. I've shot deer from 8 out to 49 yards with just one pin because I shoot enough to know where my arrow is going to hit regardless of the distance. Within most normal hunting distances of course.

Thanks bro I'm seriously thinking of switching tired of pin clutter, from what I hear the open view can make a difference. I have only shot multi pin so I'm not knocking it lol.

 

[Bonzikilla]

I’m not big on single pins but they are a great sight picture. How about a dual pin? Give something extra if yardage changes quick.

Never have tried I'm going to do some research on them thanks man.