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New Hunting Beast Hang On

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Yeah, anyone surprised by this price hasn't been paying attention. I remember hearing people close to Dan saying his stand would be in the $600 range over two years ago.

I think the sad part of this is a lesson for anyone- dont spill the beans on an invention until you've tied up all the loose ends cause it might be a few years before you're ready to go to market and the competition- who has more resources and experience getting new products to market- will come up with their own version and beat you to market with your own concept.

I'm never going back to a treestand, but hope he is successful and beast gear gives saddle platforms a shot.



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Wdog said:
The reason you have the options today is because he went against the grain and produced some high quality expensive stuff.
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Truly I don’t know what you are talking about.

Dan’s sticks are a fine option though, I’m not saying otherwise.
 
The stand looks badass. I like the dimensions and weight. About perfect in my eyes. A .5 but with 6” more inches of platform and a normal seat height at only a pound more.

I am not sure about the stick attachment. I would prefer to have the sticks closer to the stand. I would probably make another threaded rod to hold the sticks together in a bundle and use their one stick attachment bar to carry the sticks flipped up flat against the post.
 
enkriss said:
The stand looks badass. I like the dimensions and weight. About perfect in my eyes. A .5 but with 6” more inches of platform and a normal seat height at only a pound more.

I am not sure about the stick attachment. I would prefer to have the sticks closer to the stand. I would probably make another threaded rod to hold the sticks together in a bundle and use their one stick attachment bar to carry the sticks flipped up flat against the post.
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Agreed. Thats why everyone is pushing for a ".75".

Imagine how light a .75 with a square tube seat post and m7 style seat would be.. THATS something I'd be happy to spend 650 on.
 
Noonespecial said:
If you don’t like the price then just wait until Lone Wolf or Novix comes out with their updated Assault. They dropped the weight of the Alpha by 3 pounds. If they do the same with the Assault then your looking at pretty much the same stand for half the price.
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The Echo is not 3 lbs lighter than the Alpha.
 
600 bucks shipped, I believe I just saw!! No way, the .5 LWCG is lighter and every bit as nice. I love saddle hunting and I do it out of a small treestand. I get the best of both worlds that way. Sorry but the Beast is dead at that much money. Shawn
 
Westdesign03 said:
For anyone interested, they posted the back story on the beast stand. Kind of interesting. I admit I do like the way the beast sticks lock onto the stand.


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Not a fan of the stick attachment. Jutting the sticks out like that will feel heavier than having them close to the stand.
 
Deerman406 said:
600 bucks shipped, I believe I just saw!! No way, the .5 LWCG is lighter and every bit as nice. I love saddle hunting and I do it out of a small treestand. I get the best of both worlds that way. Sorry but the Beast is dead at that much money. Shawn
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More like 650 shipped.
 
Deerman406 said:
600 bucks shipped, I believe I just saw!! No way, the .5 LWCG is lighter and every bit as nice. I love saddle hunting and I do it out of a small treestand. I get the best of both worlds that way. Sorry but the Beast is dead at that much money. Shawn
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If you're comparing specs and price only, sure. But I cant get on board otherwise. LWCG is too rough around the edges, both figuratively and literally.

Had earlobes put as much thought, man power, brainpower, and field testing into his stands, the original release wouldn't have had a finish that srapes off, and they wouldn't continue to ship stands with posts so sharp they fray your cam strap.

Really not a fan boy of Dan's, but I DO buy into his development and R&D vs all other manufacturers. It just so happens LWCG is the only one that can hold a light to the beast stand thus far.
 
kyler1945 said:
Anyone complaining about the price had a chance to see how much a 2x4 sheet of 3/4” 6061 aluminum would cost you?

anyone complaining about the price see how much having said piece of aluminum water jetted, or CNC’d to shape?

anyone complaining about the price see how many hours it would take you to do the above things right the first time, and have a functioning stand?

anyone complaining about the price consider the cost of adding all the components necessary to complete the project, after getting the first 3 steps exactly right?

anyone complaining about the price remember the exact same conversation around LWCG stuff, that’s now just mainstream? Along with OOAL?

anyone complaining about the price understand the markup that machined metal goods get, is nothing compared to the markup that saddle companies having their diapers sewn in China get? Like 2 or 3x profit, versus 10x profit.

anyone complaining about the price take any marketing or economics courses?

Dan could cast a stand if the IP wasn’t protected, and sell it at a lower price.

Dan could fabricate and weld a stand and sell it at a lower price.

Dan could sell a stand with similar size specs as other stands, and maybe sell at a lower price.

Im not saying it’s good or bad, or worth it to me or you or not. But Id like someone to show me the sub 10lb hang on that fits well inside your hips and shoulders, and a person who’s not 5’8 can sit in it without their feet hanging off. Do these features matter to you if you’re broke and 5’8 and hunt private land? No. But the complaints about the price say nothing about the product. Only something about you.

for the record, I’m generally disappointed about the grip that business has on hunting, and how it’s turned it into a commodity. Having said that, it’s largely responsible for us having lots of public ground to hunt. We should be thankful, instead of poopooing. Also, no one forces anyone to buy. Game the system - hunt the land it provides, and don’t buy the gear! But we could do with a little less whining about it.
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I don't see any comments here as "poopooing" hunting or the stand. Many are merely stating their observations and opinions of it. Which,...."Newsflash",...you are a member of a public forum. Where opinions are to be freely expressed within the bounds of the forums rules. Thanks for sharing yours.

Yes, quite aware of all of the aforementioned, as well as have some background in economics/marketing. Anyone else who also does, likely realizes, as I do, there will be a limited market audience at this price point. I also have no doubt that the stand had to be priced at this level in order for there to be any reasonable profit margin. If LWCG inventory was a sell out this season, I don't think you would have seen $100 gift certificates for $500 purchase around Christmas time. There will likely be another ~3lbs less stand to take its place in different form or function within a few months time, and another after that. Its the nature of this business.

If I were to make my own prediction, this stand will likely have a limited run and for some become coveted piece like the LW Assassin. So, if you like what you see, as well as the price, buy it. While you can.
 
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enkriss said:
The stand looks badass. I like the dimensions and weight. About perfect in my eyes. A .5 but with 6” more inches of platform and a normal seat hieght.

I am not sure about the stick attachment. I would prefer to have the sticks closer to the stand. I would probably make another threaded rod to hold the sticks together in a bundle and use their one stick attachment bar to carry the sticks flipped up flat against the post.
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It splits the difference between the .5 and 1.0 In weight.

It’s not really a .5 with 6” more platform and normal seat height, its closer to a 1.0 with 15% weight reduction, a longer platform, and a smaller seat, at least in my eyes.

Here is my perspective.

Like his sticks, Dan built this stand to suit his style. Doesn’t mean you can use it otherwise, but it makes sense as a mobile hang on stand. Lightweight, narrow, platform your toes don’t hang off.

I see the .5 primarily as a hybrid saddle option, weight on par with the XL platforms, lighter and smaller than a stand. Lower seat works for a knee rest.

Doesn‘t mean others won’t be happy using them differently.

If LWCG stands start breaking and THB stand holds up, well that $150 - $250 extra will be worth it. Dan talks about the 300lb weight rating, LWCG actually advertises it. Real world use is another story.

VS 1.0, as a stand..
The extra foot room of THB stand makes a lot of sense, and the weight savings is nice. The narrow profile is somewhat mitigated if you use the proprietary attachment method, depending on length of sticks. The 1.0 packs flat if you use their sticks and want that. I like the brown color of THB stand.
 
enkriss said:
The stand looks badass. I like the dimensions and weight. About perfect in my eyes. A .5 but with 6” more inches of platform and a normal seat height at only a pound more.

I am not sure about the stick attachment. I would prefer to have the sticks closer to the stand. I would probably make another threaded rod to hold the sticks together in a bundle and use their one stick attachment bar to carry the sticks flipped up flat against the post.
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There s a YouTuber "Michigan outdoors" I believe he uses a similar rod to hold his beast sticks together you may wanna have a look

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Plebe said:
It splits the difference between the .5 and 1.0 In weight.

It’s not really a .5 with 6” more platform and normal seat height, its closer to a 1.0 with 15% weight reduction, a longer platform, and a smaller seat, at least in my eyes.

Here is my perspective.

Like his sticks, Dan built this stand to suit his style. Doesn’t mean you can use it otherwise, but it makes sense as a mobile hang on stand. Lightweight, narrow, platform your toes don’t hang off.

I see the .5 primarily as a hybrid saddle option, weight on par with the XL platforms, lighter and smaller than a stand. Lower seat works for a knee rest.

Doesn‘t mean others won’t be happy using them differently.

If LWCG stands start breaking and THB stand holds up, well that $150 - $250 extra will be worth it. Dan talks about the 300lb weight rating, LWCG actually advertises it. Real world use is another story.

VS 1.0, as a stand..
The extra foot room of THB stand makes a lot of sense, and the weight savings is nice. The narrow profile is somewhat mitigated if you use the proprietary attachment method, depending on length of sticks. The 1.0 packs flat if you use their sticks and want that. I like the brown color of THB stand.
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I tried the .5 a hybrid saddle platform. It didn’t work as well as I hoped. Needed to buy another strap since only comes with the stand and the stand does not handle side pressure at all with 1 strap. I found the cables to be a real pain to deal with and it was tough to get a shot around the back of the tree. I did like the overall design and if I was a 5’-8” with size 10 shoe stand hunter it would be perfect.
 
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