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Nock fit help

Allegheny Tom

Allegheny Tom

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I'm looking for push-in nocks that fit a shaft ID of ~.206 and a throat opening of ~.112 or smaller.
I have some of the original Grizzlystik shafts and the nocks that Alaska Bow supply sold with those dia shafts are far too loose on a small diameter d97 string.
It's not my string (my buddy's bow) so I don't want to re-serve it with thicker serving material.
Does anyone know if there is a nock sold like I'm looking for?
Thanks.
 
Prolly could re-serve it in the time it takes to even find them to order. I dont know off hand of the nock you are looking for, sorry.
 
BTaylor said:
Prolly could re-serve it in the time it takes to even find them to order. I dont know off hand of the nock you are looking for, sorry.
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Yeah, But it's not my bow. It's my Buddy's Black Widow (which I've ordered one with a similar grip) and he lent me his to shoot for the summer to help determine exactly which BW handle I wanted to choose. My old Grizzlystik arrows are probably the best spined shafts that I have for shooting this bow but the nocks are really, REALLY loose on the string. I'm extra cautious of a dry fire and since it's not my bow, I won't shoot those shafts unless I get the proper nock fit and I don't want to re-serve it. I want to adjust/tamper with as little as possible.
Other than biting the nock, are there any other methods to tighten nock fit? Just for casual shooting, not talking about fine tuning for hunting or shooting bulls eyes.
 
Allegheny Tom said:
Yeah, But it's not my bow. It's my Buddy's Black Widow (which I've ordered one with a similar grip) and he lent me his to shoot for the summer to help determine exactly which BW handle I wanted to choose. My old Grizzlystik arrows are probably the best spined shafts that I have for shooting this bow but the nocks are really, REALLY loose on the string. I'm extra cautious of a dry fire and since it's not my bow, I won't shoot those shafts unless I get the proper nock fit and I don't want to re-serve it. I want to adjust/tamper with as little as possible.
Other than biting the nock, are there any other methods to tighten nock fit? Just for casual shooting, not talking about fine tuning for hunting or shooting bulls eyes.
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You could wrap the string with teflon tape where you nock to get the fit right to shoot a few arrows and verify flight. Then remove the tape to return the bow. It prolly wont last for very many shots but enough to verify.
 
Halfstep said:
What arrows are you needing these nocks for?
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They are the earlier generation (1st gen?) Grizzlystiks which are a tapered carbon shaft. Alaska Bowhunting supply has since changed the manufacturer to Victory and has actually had 2 generations of those. The 1st gen are not considered a micro shaft as far as I know.

This is not a hugely important problem for me to solve. It would be nice if I could shoot those gen 1 shafts on a d97, micro diameter, style string but I don't know if there's a nock that fits a .206 ID shaft that fits on a smaller diameter string. If the string (and bow) were mine, then I'd just re-serve it with thicker serving. That's not an option in this case.

I think I'll just experiment with doing a 2nd ply of serving with dental floss where the nock attaches to the string. Temporary, and probably not durable but probably okay for short term experimentation...that is unless you guys are aware of a nock size the will handle my issue, then I'd just buy some of those. Otherwise, this ain't a major deal. Just thought I'd ask.
 
Allegheny Tom said:
They are the earlier generation (1st gen?) Grizzlystiks which are a tapered carbon shaft. Alaska Bowhunting supply has since changed the manufacturer to Victory and has actually had 2 generations of those. The 1st gen are not considered a micro shaft as far as I know.

This is not a hugely important problem for me to solve. It would be nice if I could shoot those gen 1 shafts on a d97, micro diameter, style string but I don't know if there's a nock that fits a .206 ID shaft that fits on a smaller diameter string. If the string (and bow) were mine, then I'd just re-serve it with thicker serving. That's not an option in this case.

I think I'll just experiment with doing a 2nd ply of serving with dental floss where the nock attaches to the string. Temporary, and probably not durable but probably okay for short term experimentation...that is unless you guys are aware of a nock size the will handle my issue, then I'd just buy some of those. Otherwise, this ain't a major deal. Just thought I'd ask.
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You might try some .204-.205 nocks and see how they fit the shaft. There are more nocks to choose from in the .204-.205. These nocks should work just fine and if they are a little lose, you can dab a very small amount of super glue to them with a toothpick to keep them from turning.

Easton X Nock, Bohning A Nock, Black Eagle R Nock, AAE IP5 Nock.
Or use a pin bushing and pin nock like the Gold Tip Kinetic .204 Pin Bushing and pin nock.

As for trying to serve over the string serving, that doesn't work well as the over serving wants to slip down into the grooves of the string serving and separate it. The finished diameter usually will end up being too fat.

Either reserve the string with a bigger center serving or try the .204-.205 nocks.
 
Halfstep said:
You might try some .204-.205 nocks and see how they fit the shaft. There are more nocks to choose from in the .204-.205. These nocks should work just fine and if they are a little lose, you can dab a very small amount of super glue to them with a toothpick to keep them from turning.

Easton X Nock, Bohning A Nock, Black Eagle R Nock, AAE IP5 Nock.
Or use a pin bushing and pin nock like the Gold Tip Kinetic .204 Pin Bushing and pin nock.

As for trying to serve over the string serving, that doesn't work well as the over serving wants to slip down into the grooves of the string serving and separate it. The finished diameter usually will end up being too fat.

Either reserve the string with a bigger center serving or try the .204-.205 nocks.
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They are loose on the string...not loose in the shaft.
 
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Allegheny Tom said:
Thwy are loose on the string...not loose in the shaft.
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I know what you mean. You have nock/string fit issues. You are looking for a tighter nock fit for the string. But .206 nocks that will work may be hard to find. But, going to a .204-.205 would give you a lot more options. But the .204-.205 nocks may fit the shaft a touch looser but still should work. A toothpick tip amount of super glue will hold them in place if necessary.

I am confused on something. If you need a tighter nock fit, you need to use a smaller groove nock, not larger. Something like a .98-.100 groove instead of the .110-.112 groove.

I am not sure about trad bow string diameters but on a compound. the .110 nock fit is on the upper end of nock groove sizes. .98-.100 is average groove size and .88-.90 is small groove size. When I build strings, I stay between the .100 and .110 finished center serving diameter, so it accommodates most compound nocks.
 
My 5mm Easton Axis takes Lumenocks without issue, and the stock Easton nocks are on the shelf at most sporting goods stores around here. Should work for you, and if they're a bit looser than you'd like the dab of superglue should do what you need.
 
Halfstep said:
.....I am confused on something. If you need a tighter nock fit, you need to use a smaller groove nock, not larger. Something like a .98-.100 groove instead of the .110-.112 groove.......
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I never said I wanted a nock with a larger throat.
This string dia is roughly .112 that's why I was looking for something around .110 or smaller.

With that said, I looked thru my stash of bow gear (yet again) and I did find a dozen nocks that are just what I need.
I appreciate everyone's input.
Thank you.
 
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