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Phantom is For Sale

wizard said:
Ordered 2/26 @1705 hrs
Received "Your Tethrd order #152432 receipt" 2/28 @1652 hrs
Received "Your Tethrd order has been processed!" 2/28 @2254 hrs
Received UPS notification(Email) 2/29 @0002 hrs

Had a couple of questions during the ordering process and Greg@tethrd replied back immediately.

Phantom/Predator/sys hauler/Ropeman1 will be here 03/04

Without a doubt the best customer service from a company to date.

Thank You Tethrd
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Good seeing this. There were a few "hiccups" when the Mantis was first released. I'm glad to see that Tethrd has persevered thru some growing pains. I would venture a guess and say that at this point in time, right now, they are the saddle company that sets the bar in this particular niche industry.
 
Tethrd does set the bar in many areas. But a year ago New Tribes set the bar and are not to be discounted.
Tethrd may have a GM market share but there is some good Honda type competition and variety to suit various needs.
They certainly are the best marketers, with likely the greatest market share and the best production system and have been the most responsible for growing the market to the benefit of all saddle makers. They have good product development and testing. New Tribes is not far off in all these areas - Ford?

But there is very good competition producing slightly different products for slightly different needs. And everyone’s butt is slightly different. Some produce slightly lower quality, at a lower price but with good comfort- maybe the H2 - Hyundai?
Some produce a bulkier product but with fantastic comfort and versatility: example the JX 3 which can be a ground chair and a pack and you need no platform - a mini van.

Some are developing an old concept after the Anderson sling -example the recon. Some claim it has unbelievable comfort at a very good price point. - a Harley.
And let’s not forget New tribes who build a saddle that is built like a tank and have a lot of experience building saddles. -a pickup truck.
There are also several smaller companies that might emerge with a different and better product. It is fun to watch and see the variety out there and it would be a mistake to discount the competition.
This is all to the benefit of the consumer.

I keep hearing too that all these saddle makers are great guys. A real good reason to buy? Really I feel bad for the small businesses that will lose in the end. See it all the time in farming but that is capitalism.


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Ontariofarmer said:
Tethrd does set the bar in many areas. But a year ago New Tribes set the bar and are not to be discounted.
Tethrd may have a GM market share but there is some good Honda type competition and variety to suit various needs.
They certainly are the best marketers, with likely the greatest market share and the best production system and have been the most responsible for growing the market to the benefit of all saddle makers. They have good product development and testing. New Tribes is not far off in all these areas - Ford?

But there is very good competition producing slightly different products for slightly different needs. And everyone’s butt is slightly different. Some produce slightly lower quality, at a lower price but with good comfort- maybe the H2 - Hyundai?
Some produce a bulkier product but with fantastic comfort and versatility: example the JX 3 which can be a ground chair and a pack and you need no platform - a mini van.

Some are developing an old concept after the Anderson sling -example the recon. Some claim it has unbelievable comfort at a very good price point. - a Harley.
And let’s not forget New tribes who build a saddle that is built like a tank and have a lot of experience building saddles. -a pickup truck.
There are also several smaller companies that might emerge with a different and better product. It is fun to watch and see the variety out there and it would be a mistake to discount the competition.
This is all to the benefit of the consumer.

I keep hearing too that all these saddle makers are great guys. A real good reason to buy? Really I feel bad for the small businesses that will lose in the end. See it all the time in farming but that is capitalism.


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Fun analogy. I am waiting for someone to bring the Wrap2r to market .

A lot of great options, the future is bright!
 
Kyle Hey said:
Fun analogy. I am waiting for someone to bring the Wrap2r to market .

A lot of great options, the future is bright!
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You'll want to see Eberharts sling then. I saw it yesterday- it's basically a wraptor but has a webbing bridge (changeable) a waist belt, and lineman's+molle loops.
Very interesting.

Edit: forgot. Also had leg loops.
 
JBDaddy said:
You'll want to see Eberharts sling then. I saw it yesterday- it's basically a wraptor but has a webbing bridge (changeable) a waist belt, and lineman's+molle loops.
Very interesting.

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That will be interesting for sure. Sounds similar to the treehopper sling. I sat in that at the Harrisburg, PA show and it was sweet.
It will be neat yo see the differences.
 
wizard said:
Ordered 2/26 @1705 hrs
Received "Your Tethrd order #152432 receipt" 2/28 @1652 hrs
Received "Your Tethrd order has been processed!" 2/28 @2254 hrs
Received UPS notification(Email) 2/29 @0002 hrs

Had a couple of questions during the ordering process and Greg@tethrd replied back immediately.

Phantom/Predator/sys hauler/Ropeman1 will be here 03/04

Without a doubt the best customer service from a company to date.

Thank You Tethrd
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Let’s not turn this into a tracking/when will I get my phantom thread or it gets moved. Stay on topic folks.......not directed solely @wizard
 
Bigterp said:
Let’s not turn this into a tracking/when will I get my phantom thread or it gets moved. Stay on topic folks.......not directed solely @wizard
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Not sure Wizard's post was off topic. The saddle's are selling and shipping within days of purchase. This is new to the community and should be highlighted.
 
I don’t know why we are worried about shipping times in February.
I will be fun to try the phantom but a day or so difference shouldn’t matter. Looking forward to having it in my hands but it won’t be used much until October


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d_rek said:
We used to rig up garments with fishing line and photoshop out everything afterwards. We also used superglue to keep folds and whatnot straight. Some of my friends who did campaign work for fast food chains did a lot of really insane stuff to make hamburgers look really good. Resin epoxied meat, spot freezing and burning with compressed air and blowtorches...
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Magnified to show texture
 
I sat in one today at the Michigan Outdoorama. I passed. Not that it was bad, in fact, it was pretty comfortable but I am not all that uncomfortable in my Mantis. I could see where a sitter would prefer the Phantom though. I may end up in a Phantom eventually but, for now, I will wait until the Pennsylvania meet up to try the different saddles all at the same time. If something makes me say, " wow that's so comfortable, I've got to have it" I will give up my Mantis.
 
Gumbymedic said:
I sat in one today at the Michigan Outdoorama. I passed. Not that it was bad, in fact, it was pretty comfortable but I am not all that uncomfortable in my Mantis. I could see where a sitter would prefer the Phantom though. I may end up in a Phantom eventually but, for now, I will wait until the Pennsylvania meet up to try the different saddles all at the same time. If something makes me say, " wow that's so comfortable, I've got to have it" I will give up my Mantis.
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Man, bummer about the long drive to have that impression. Did you happen to see John Eberhart's sling on the next table?
 
JBDaddy said:
Man, bummer about the long drive to have that impression. Did you happen to see John Eberhart's sling on the next table?
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I didn't. Now I'm mad. I did get to see him and hear his seminar. I was hoping to see his signature saddle. I was probably standing right next to it and never noticed
 
Gumbymedic said:
I didn't. Now I'm mad. I did get to see him and hear his seminar. I was hoping to see his signature saddle. I was probably standing right next to it and never noticed
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In past years I've seen it - he probably had it in a box somewhere - he pulled out some of his folding steps to show some other guys from a box under the table. But it's not the same as the one he had on the table. Don't be mad - go look at this pic from the Wraptor thread and imagine belt on the inside of the top section, and a linemans belt/molle loops like the Mantis on the outside of that same piece. Add leg loops (I didn't take a pic and can't remember if they connected to the bottom of the top, or the bottom of the bottom piece)... and a webbing bridge. That's the new one. The old one had no safety features like a belt at all.

Weight wise it was about the same as the Phantom in my hand. I joked with him that I tried a similar concept but I couldn't keep the pieces from falling down on the walk and he laughed and explained how he deals with that (tuck them together, tighten it a lot).

More than that, here's the tidbit I picked up from him in that conversation: Most guys in Michigan are willing to go in far. Going in a mile is not a big deal. He finds they don't often go across inconvenient water though. If you can walk through in your boots, it's not good enough to get separation from other guys. If you need waders, you're finally getting where 90% of others won't go. Cattail marshes are a good example. If a property doesn't have that separation opportunity, he's very likely to skip it entirely. The places I hunt barely have any good separation opportunity, and I might be ahead to spend my time travelling somewhere that does, instead of putting in more time where I am.
 
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