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Poll - Would you pay a tax/fee to allow use of spurs/bolts/screw in steps?
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Kill stuff and fell like you made a difference for the environment at the same time, lol.
"I couldnt have closed the deal if I wasnt using the unfibulator."
I believe we are allowed to use some of these options in MD on certain public land as long as we dont leave anything in the tree when we leave. Some lands specifically state no methods that break through the bark or no screw ins but not all. Not insinuating you didnt know that or anything. and i might be completely wrong lol. Its not illegal til ya get caught right...
I have some cranford steps in a tree this year and they work great. Also started using a extending bow hook thingy for a gun rest this year. i cant imagine they do much more damage then climbers. i see a lot of good trees chewed up from summits and lone wolfs all over public here.
Oh, my ignorance is loudly on display in this thread. As it somewhat regularly is lol. All good.
correct. There are no regulations on State Forest lands. There are some WMA’s that have their own restrictions that may limit certain climbing methods.
I can't believe this is a actual thread. This is a pointless discussion because it's non issue. I wouldn't give a dime to be able to "have permission" to climb a tree with my chosen method on land that I already own. I already pay a "state lands use fee" when I buy my license.
Bolding added by me... Hasn't stopped us before, what else are we supposed to do in the off-season, scout and look for sheds? You can't do that online!
Shed hunting season is maybe just as fun as hunting season for me. Especially now cuz I can bring my little guy around. Good family activity and gets ya ready for turkey. Lots of walking.
Never found any sheds in MD bigger than the biggest bucks I've killed though oddly enough. I really want to go do it in Kansas or Iowa. Find some heavy boys!
Do we have a 2023 shed hunting thread yet?
Glad to hear you've not found any big sheds. I haven't found... Any lol. This will be the first year I really put in effort though
I found a huge one the other day right at the edge of the woods behind my place. Let me see if I can find the photo...
Not sure why everyone makes such a big deal about this. It wasn't very hard at all. Stuck out like a sore thumb, to be honest...
Not sure why everyone makes such a big deal about this. It wasn't very hard at all. Stuck out like a sore thumb, to be honest...
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... But in all seriousness, this was the best one I ever found. Stumbled onto it while bear hunting public land a couple years ago.
Was almost as big as my Badlands Pursuit pack. I walked in circles for a while trying to find the matched set. No luck, but I did find this nearby...
And this, right next to the dead head...
Things that make you go, hmmmmmm...
I’m more surprised at your landscaping. Isn’t there still snow on the ground around your parts?Not sure why everyone makes such a big deal about this. It wasn't very hard at all. Stuck out like a sore thumb, to be honest...
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From a forestry perspective, even if spurring up trees doesn’t kill them it most definitely degrades the quality of the lumber and in some cases ruins the lumber entirely. How much it damages the quality of the lumber depends on age and species. So if that public land has any type of Forstery management plan it’s hard to imagine a state would allow hunters to degrade a salable product.
A lot of the land in my area that is open to public use is land owned by lumber companies. They would lobby and win any effort to allow spurring and bolts on public access land.
A lot of the land in my area that is open to public use is land owned by lumber companies. They would lobby and win any effort to allow spurring and bolts on public access land.
Your question is sensible but only if the tree was only used over a single season. On Any land where forest products were being intentionally cultivated, the forester would NEVER want to leave the management choices to hunters. Another consideration is that the best lumber is not cut into boards, it’s cut into veneer. We also should all ne aware of how catastrophic the damage to logging and sawyering tools metal objects left in trees can be. If a hunter has a bolt or screw in break off in a tree, that hunk of metal can put the mill out of commission for a day or more while repairs are made. A tree can seal over a wound very quickly and even the most skilled eye can be unaware of metal hidden under the surface.
What percentage across all geographic locations, and all marketable species, are veneer quality logs?
I’m not looking for super precise numbers.
Just a sense of scale.
25%?
10%?
1%?
.01%?
Less?
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What percentage of mills use metal detectors before milling logs?
Of those that use them, what percentage of logs that come through do they use them on?
I’m familiar with outages and shut downs in heavy industry. They’re measured, and can be qualified by type and time and things that caused the shut down.
In the milling industry, is there a shutdown time or rate? Is there a “forced” or “unplanned” rate? Can you attribute some percentage of down time for saw mills due to “metal in log”? Even if it isn’t super precise, just a sense of scale? Does it happen once a year to every mill on average? 20 days a year down time due to metal in log? Just looking for some context.