Redundancy in tethering

[Tjraley2]

If I’m backing something up, it’ll be my bridge. My least favorite part of a saddle system is the bridge running across a thin metal carabiner. Seems like only a matter of time. Of course, I’m generally afraid of heights, so everything seems like a matter of time once I’m 3 ft off the ground.

 

[elk yinzer]

If I’m backing something up, it’ll be my bridge. My least favorite part of a saddle system is the bridge running across a thin metal carabiner. Seems like only a matter of time. Of course, I’m generally afraid of heights, so everything seems like a matter of time once I’m 3 ft off the ground.

100% agree

 

[weekender21]

If I’m backing something up, it’ll be my bridge. My least favorite part of a saddle system is the bridge running across a thin metal carabiner. Seems like only a matter of time. Of course, I’m generally afraid of heights, so everything seems like a matter of time once I’m 3 ft off the ground.

Certainly nothing wrong with backing everything up but if you consider your bridge the most dangerous part of your climbing/hanging set-up I'd say you're in great shape! With a "rated" bridge and a quality carabiner you're probably more likely to die of a snake bite, get struck by lightening or mauled by a rutting buck. All technically possible of course.

I back up my ropeman and bridge because...why not, but getting in and out of the tree is much more likely to facilitate a bad fall.

 

[Tjraley2]

Certainly nothing wrong with backing everything up but if you consider your bridge the most dangerous part of your climbing/hanging set-up I'd say you're in great shape! With a "rated" bridge and a quality carabiner you're probably more likely to die of a snake bite, get struck by lightening or mauled by a rutting buck. All technically possible of course.

I back up my ropeman and bridge because...why not, but getting in and out of the tree is much more likely to facilitate a bad fall.

Oh yeah, for sure climbing is the most dangerous part. I guess I was just thinking of the components once I’m setup.

 

[Aeds151]

Looks good. Can never be too safe and comfortable.


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[rutjr]

Some day when you have confidence in your set up you won't need a secondary.

 

[Islandshooter]

Some day when you have confidence in your set up you won't need a secondary.

That's why I'm asking all these questions!!

Some day when you have confidence in your set up you won't need a secondary.

That's the reason I'm asking. To build a set up that I'm confident in! But not so restrictive that it's a pain! I appreciate all the info and insight from you guys! Looking forward to the off-season to get it wired even more!

 

[IkemanTX]

I have never run a second tether in the tree...

Not once.


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[sawdust1907]

Nothing Wrong with having a “backup”.

 

[redsquirrel]

I am the biggest supporter of being safe out there. I feel that when using all climbing rated components in the correct fashion there is no need to use a second tether. This stuff was designed to be used for this. I think it is more important to be constantly checking your gear for potential points of failure and prophylactically replacing things before their life is up.

 

[Islandshooter]

I am the biggest supporter of being safe out there. I feel that when using all climbing rated components in the correct fashion there is no need to use a second tether. This stuff was designed to be used for this. I think it is more important to be constantly checking your gear for potential points of failure and prophylactically replacing things before their life is up.

Thank you, exactly how I feel. Jump master/rope master/ dive supervisor in another life where safety was paramount. Constantly inspecting equipment was the key including logs for each time a rope was used. Lotsa good info on this site, I feel my safety factor has increased considerably, do thanks to all!!

 

[Marc W]

The tether (climbing rope) is designed to repeatedly catch a climber that has fallen off a jagged rock face. The force that we put on this rope is so small compared to that. I would be more worried that the tree I am in will tip over than my tether with fail.

 

[kenn1320]

The tether (climbing rope) is designed to repeatedly catch a climber that has fallen off a jagged rock face. The force that we put on this rope is so small compared to that. I would be more worried that the tree I am in will tip over than my tether with fail.

Im no climber, but believe they use dynamic rope for falls. If a climber falls and his rope catches him, does he continue to use it fall after fall or does it get discarded? Im not sure rope is like a parachute where you keep using it fall after fall.

Arborist retire ropes alot from what Im reading.

 

[TNSTAAFL]

I think it is more important to be constantly checking your gear for potential points of failure and prophylactically replacing things before their life is up.

This has to be one of the best auto-corrections ever!



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[Marc W]

Im no climber, but believe they use dynamic rope for falls. If a climber falls and his rope catches him, does he continue to use it fall after fall or does it get discarded? Im not sure rope is like a parachute where you keep using it fall after fall.

Arborist retire ropes alot from what Im reading.

No, inspect it frequently and replace as needed.

 

[redsquirrel]

This has to be one of the best auto-corrections ever!



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ie replace it before things have a chance to go wrong.

 

[TNSTAAFL]

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ie replace it before things have a chance to go wrong.

Yeah, I understood you.

Maybe I'm mistaken and you meant to use that word. I assumed you meant "proactively" and it auto-corrected to prophylacticly.

Never seen it used that way before. Probably just my limited vocabulary.


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[redsquirrel]

Yeah, I understood you.

Maybe I'm mistaken and you meant to use that word. I assumed you meant "proactively" and it auto-corrected to prophylacticly.

Never seen it used that way before. Probably just my limited vocabulary.


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No worries

 

[denots]

Im no climber, but believe they use dynamic rope for falls. If a climber falls and his rope catches him, does he continue to use it fall after fall or does it get discarded? Im not sure rope is like a parachute where you keep using it fall after fall.

Arborist retire ropes alot from what Im reading.

I could be wrong about this so anybody feel free to correct me if I am. I believe a lot of ropes that climbers use are dynamic, depending on the application. It seems like I remember reading that they are rated to handle X amount of Falls(depending on the brand of rope and manufacturer's recommendations). Some are rated for more falls than others. Knowing your equipment and what to look for as it begins to show signs of failure/ excessive wear is key. I don't know that it has to be replaced every time you fall.
To be fair if the tether ever sees a fall it should never be greater than just a couple of 3 ft and that would only be in certain climbing methods(Cain and hand climber). In most applications the way we use them they should never see a fall more than a couple of inches. More of a swing than a fall. I've yet to see a picture of any saddle Hunter hanging off of a cliff with his rope rubbing against a Jagged rock face. I say that because I've heard of people worrying about a Broadhead cutting their line or because it's in a rough bark tree. If anybody is concerned with any of that I suggest they take a knife out and try to cut their rope, or a pair of scissors. It's a lot tougher than you think.

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[ChetterB]

My current set up is rope man one on lineman and tree tether. Lineman switches to secondary tether attached to rock climbing harness,, other tree tether attached to modified sit drag. Second tether does not take long and makes me feel better, plus no interference in function. Thanks Jerry.