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Belay loop is the number 1 reason I decided to modify a NT champion instead of the evo.
 

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jtkratzer said:
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I've always used a fixed bridge with separate lineman belt and tether.

I'm building an ultralight saddle with a modified Sitdrag and I'd like to have my lineman belt pull double duty as an adjustable bridge. I think I have a solution for always being connected to the tree, but I'm wondering if it's wise to use a ropeman on my bridge. I'm sure it is. I guess my original post/question was just kind of thinking out loud.

The Ropeman will work fine for that. If you figure out how to make your linemans a bridge as well let me know. I messed with that idea last night and I never came up with a good solution to staying hooked up the entire time. I could do it but it required some extra stuff that was more hassle than it was worth.

I have a stopper knot tied at the end of the lineman belt rope to prevent ever accidentally letting it all run through the Ropeman.

Saw a video on the three point lineman belt, but it seemed like you needed to carry almost the same amount of rope, as having a dedicated bridge and lineman belt. Considering you can use a knot to attach the lineman's belt to one side of your harness and a carabiner at
The other, and the bridge can be done with just knots, I didn't see the advantage to a single, long length of rope playing double duty.

That was my thinking as well. After messing with it I didn't see much advantage since the bridge weighs nearly nothing. I simply just tie an overhand knot in the bridge to keep it short and out of the way while climbing and stow the linemans rope in my dump pouch after attaching to my main tether.
 

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Re: RE: Re: ropeman 1

flinginairos said:
g2outdoors said:
I've always used a fixed bridge with separate lineman belt and tether.

I'm building an ultralight saddle with a modified Sitdrag and I'd like to have my lineman belt pull double duty as an adjustable bridge. I think I have a solution for always being connected to the tree, but I'm wondering if it's wise to use a ropeman on my bridge. I'm sure it is. I guess my original post/question was just kind of thinking out loud.

The Ropeman will work fine for that. If you figure out how to make your linemans a bridge as well let me know. I messed with that idea last night and I never came up with a good solution to staying hooked up the entire time. I could do it but it required some extra stuff that was more hassle than it was worth.
I posted a series of pictures a few weeks back in a thread called" tree tether "or something like that after a hunt showing how to do the triple duty one piece of rope for lineman, bridge, and tree strap. If you're interested, it's here:
viewtopic.php?p=10879#p10879

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Yes I remember reading through that. Excellent setup.
 

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Very cool essdub. How many feet of rope does it take to do that?


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That particular rope is about seventeen feet long. Sometimes, if I plan to rope descend and leave the rope in the tree for a few days (if it's in a place I intend to hunt again very soon) I'll just do this same thing with a forty to fifty foot rope and when I descend, I'll detach completely and won't have to carry a bridge, lineman belt or tree rope the next time. It works great for using my spurs up the tree (I won't use the lineman belt if the rope is already there because I'll just attach the rope as a bridge when I get to the tree, then attach the rope man or grigri and tend it while I spur up.

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Haven't given much thought to the linemen belt or tree strap because I'm going to use the SRT rope climbing method like Whispers Death to get in and out of trees. That method eliminates the tree strap and lineman belt. I have a Ropeman on my lineman belt, but now that I'm going the SRT route, not sure how much work it will see. Don't really want to use it to adjust the bridge length over the blake's hitch.
 

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essdub said:
That particular rope is about seventeen feet long. Sometimes, if I plan to rope descend and leave the rope in the tree for a few days (if it's in a place I intend to hunt again very soon) I'll just do this same thing with a forty to fifty foot rope and when I descend, I'll detach completely and won't have to carry a bridge, lineman belt or tree rope the next time. It works great for using my spurs up the tree (I won't use the lineman belt if the rope is already there because I'll just attach the rope as a bridge when I get to the tree, then attach the rope man or grigri and tend it while I spur up.

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That's awesome. I'd like to try that. What rope are you using? Looked like Assaultline in the pic?


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Yeah. I just buy what I find a deal on that i think is suitable for whichever purpose i have in mind. I buy 9mm to 7/16 kernmantle and so far I've not had any issues. .I think I prefer the slightly smaller stuff but it's harder to find deals on lengths of suitable rope in the 10mm range. So most of my ropes are 7/16 even though they are thicker and bulkier and don't slide through the ascenders/descenders as smoothly

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All this doggone rope chatter. I'm one second from being convinced after looking at your ( Essdub) pictures that this is the best system I have seen on the forum for a guy looking to go light. Since I'm a spur guy, I think I'm gonna have to give this a shot. Dub, what hardware will I need to get set up like you are ?
 

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huck72412 said:
All this doggone rope chatter. I'm one second from being convinced after looking at your ( Essdub) pictures that this is the best system I have seen on the forum for a guy looking to go light. Since I'm a spur guy, I think I'm gonna have to give this a shot. Dub, what hardware will I need to get set up like you are ?
Saddle, rope, and either prussic knots or rope man/ duck, and some kind of descender if you're gonna rope descend .I use a combination based on where I'm going and what other gear well be involved ( for example:duck or rope man may be harder to use on bridge/lineman if you're wearing big bulky clothing due to small size ). Any trip up the tree, whether using spurs, single rope technique, screw in steps, or rope steps or sticks, I wear my saddle in, and use the same rope for all bridge, lineman, tree tether , the variable is rope length which depends on which method I'm planning to use to go up and down.
So the complete gear list would be something like
1 Saddle, 1 rope, And your choice of ascent and descent device. Your choice of carabiners (Probably four -1 each for each side of bridge, lineman belt, tree tether)
Your choice of climbing method

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Thank you very much !! Gonna study your pics a bit more and figure by his out.
 

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huck72412 said:
Thank you very much !! Gonna study your pics a bit more and figure by his out.
It took me two or three tries to figure out how and where I wanted everything. Now, I'm completely conVinced that this is this easiest, lightest, and fastest way. Not to mention that it's extremely quiet when using spurs and the only thing I might have to carry is my bow, my small pack (if I don't already have everything in pouches attached to modified saddle), my platform (screw ins are still my favorite but I usually carry a strap with four ameristeps), and strap on gear hanger. All of that usually fits either in one hand or strapped across my shoulders and in the pouches on belt

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That's what I like to hear. I am trying to get as light as possible! Thanks Dub!
 

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g2outdoors said:
Just bought 2 at trekinn. Thanks for the posting Ernie.

Now to buy another harness...
Any luck with that order? I placed my order on Christmas day and the tracking number they gave me still comes up as "not found"

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Same for me. The website says the order has shipped, but no tracking information is updated. I have no idea...
 

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It looks like the company is located in Spain. I would imagine shipping is going to take some time. Oh well.
 

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Oops. I didn't realize that part. I saw the 718 area code and thought it was stateside

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For what it's worth my tracking number works now and my package is in Amsterdam

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