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Rules For Thee Not For Me (Outlaw Thread)

Maverick1 said:
Seems like "people you know" are frequent violators.
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Moral of my short story and this thread is I haven’t met a hunter that didn’t break at least one rule consciously or unconsciously. That use to bother me when I thought too highly of myself. Retrospectively I can see that I wasn’t the Saint I thought I was. Of course some illegal actions do still bother me enough to cut ties. Cutting privot and sticking a bow hanger in the tree is not one of them. Things like baiting would. We are all very subjective beings no matter how much we try to tell ourselves we aren’t. If someone is out there that follows every rule to the T hunting or otherwise and never once broke one, more power to them.
 
Nutterbuster said:
Yep. I'll leave my weapon at the property line, but I'm getting the deer. And if one is down on my lease/property, I'd rather somebody just go get it as opposed to calling and bothering me or leaving it to rot. Just get it and leave like a reasonable person. Don't make a production.
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The first time I got drawn for a city hunt, the City Clerk warned me about a neighbor who would not, under any circumstances, let anybody enter his property to retrieve a dead deer, and will absolutely make a stink (sometimes at gunpoint while on the phone with 911) about trespassing. The consensus seems to be that he puts them (untagged) into his freezer. With a straight face, she told me to pack a fishing rod with heavy-test line and the biggest treble hook I can find to try to "snag and drag" should a deer fall within casting distance on his property.

I never filled that tag, but I have some 60#-test and Size 0 treble hooks. I still use one of those hooks for retrieving things I drop out of the tree.
 
Cutting away dead limbs is just helping the tree right? I know why it’s a rule, because someone would be out with a chainsaw clearing a half acre if it wasn’t. But limbs have fallen off trees I’ve climbed a few times. But I’ve also realized I’m shooting myself in the foot a bit removing cover.

My dad says when he was a child it took him a while to realize that not every family had fresh venison for the 4th of July. But there is also a difference in the really rural pretty poor individual pouching vs people killing for horns. Respect for fish and game laws and respecting public resources was something dad taught me though.
 
Iron_llama said:
The first time I got drawn for a city hunt, the City Clerk warned me about a neighbor who would not, under any circumstances, let anybody enter his property to retrieve a dead deer, and will absolutely make a stink (sometimes at gunpoint while on the phone with 911) about trespassing. The consensus seems to be that he puts them (untagged) into his freezer. With a straight face, she told me to pack a fishing rod with heavy-test line and the biggest treble hook I can find to try to "snag and drag" should a deer fall within casting distance on his property.

I never filled that tag, but I have some 60#-test and Size 0 treble hooks. I still use one of those hooks for retrieving things I drop out of the tree.
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I can't weigh in at all on urban properties and retrieval. Urban deer hunting seems like a tough thing to figure out in general with the society we have.

I have retrieved several deer from "private" property. I have never met a landowner. The odds of encountering one I imagine to be very small. The odds of a confrontation are even smaller if you don't have a stand or a weapon on you.
 
I fessed up to about 3 pages of hunting crimes on my Pre polygraph with a state trooper 2 weeks ago. That was fun lol.
I can tell you without question the most violated law I know of in NEPA is baiting for turkeys.
I baited for them and killed them many times as a dumb kid into my early twenties. The justification from close family members was always "it keeps the birds around".
It blows my mind how many people will tell me they do the same once they get to know me and open up.
Today it royally pisses me off.
Obviously, even the williest old Tom is helpless to 4 hens and a 50lb bag of crack corn. It can and does completely deplete the gamelands of birds around the private that is baited, essentially ruining it for everyone on the public. It disrupts turkeys natural inclination to wander all day to forage, to instead hover around the bait like a magnet. There's zero fair chase or zero skill.
 
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Tr33_n1nj@ said:
Preach! Weddings too!
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Makes it very difficult in alabama since between the long deer hunting season and college football all fall and winter weekends are covered up. One of my groomsman threatened to not come to my wedding because it was still hunting season. My wedding was on January the 12th lol. Luckily because of college football being so big in the south most people plan their weddings for spring and summer which means less risk of it interfering with hunting season too.
 
BackSpasm said:
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Me reading this thread preparing to report all of you to whoever it was who just became a game warden on here. Also @gcr0003 I'm sure there are "a lot of people you know who does these things" smh
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FLYIN_HAYN lol. With such grave infractions maybe he'll be willing to move to the mainland and give up life in HI :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:
 
I have to admit that when I was in my younger, more exuberant days I might have fractured a few of the hunting laws (I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired by now :)).

In all honesty though, I find as I've gotten older (and hopefully wiser) that I've become more conscientious of trying to obey the laws, at least for the most part. The one caveat to that is that I still carry a pair of hand pruning shears with me to quietly remove any small twigs that may be a threat of rubbing on me or my bow at hunting height. I hate leaving evidence of trimming though so I use them very sparingly. I'm talking twigs less than a 1/4" in diameter that I would normally snap off leaving no evidence but I don't want to make such a loud snap. I find quite often its the evidence of cut branches around a tree that alerts me to other hunter's spots and I hate to divulge any intel as to my spots so any trimming is minimal and I try to keep the trimmings wedged somewhere in the tree at height.

I also find I'm a bit more understanding of some of the more minor violations (in my opinion anyways) that I may stumble upon being committed by others as well. For clarification, I mean if I see someone shoot an animal out their car window I'm likely going to report it, but at the same time I'm also not going to get wigged out if I find some screw in steps in a tree or a tree stand left up out of season. It's hard for me to cast any stones at folks for doing things I may have (or may not have) done in my youth. I've also discovered that those minor transgressions didn't really offer me any real advantage so ultimately they're really not worth the risk/potential penalty associated with them.
 
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