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Safety mishaps per climbing method

With which climbing method have you personally experienced a safety mishap?

  • Spurs

    Votes: 5 7.1%
  • Bolts

    Votes: 5 7.1%
  • Screw in steps

    Votes: 10 14.3%
  • Strap/rope steps

    Votes: 11 15.7%
  • Multi-tether

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • One-stick

    Votes: 8 11.4%
  • Multi-stick

    Votes: 30 42.9%
  • Climbing platform

    Votes: 20 28.6%
  • Rope system

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Aider

    Votes: 25 35.7%

  • Total voters
    70
ANSI standard Z133 2017, for Arborist safety is adopted by OSHA and is the standard you may want to study. It uses the term "secured" rather than tied in so as to ensure a cinching anchor. Devices like the Tree Squeeze have been introduced in order to be in compliance with the standard. A Lineman who climbs poles also need to use a secure connection, not just a belt. I recently watched a training video of this.
But as hunters, we are less experienced and at higher risk.....so it's just common sense. Sticks kick out (and get recalled)... straps break, attachment devices fail... or we could also simply slip. We should never depend on our footing, plus none of that stuff is anywhere near as strong, stable and fault tolerant as an anchor. And nobody is even telling us how strong it is. But there is a quoted Minimum Breaking Strength on our ropes and carabiners. So tie in, manage slack, and have a rappel plan.
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OSHA hasn't adopted Z133, nor do they enforce it. There was a push from TCIA earlier this year for OSHA to create their own standard. No one I know wants that.

Tree care to OSHA follows OSHA general practices (1910)....for now. There are PPE requirements within 1910 applicable to arb of course.
 
Update on what ANSI requires of arborists:
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Yep. Most common efficient way is just a short alpine butterfly connected to your mechanical (SRS). I keep it above my lanyard. I prefer this over anything else. I can bail out of a spar on a moments notice.

It's in the standard due to stuff going south while taking tops.
 
OSHA hasn't adopted Z133, nor do they enforce it. There was a push from TCIA earlier this year for OSHA to create their own standard. No one I know wants that.

Tree care to OSHA follows OSHA general practices (1910)....for now. There are PPE requirements within 1910 applicable to arb of course.
Correct, but in the real world there is more to worry about than OSHA regs. ANSI would probably carry more weight than OSHA in a civil court, as it is more comprehensive. My state’s recently revised OSHA rules still talk about which Manila rope is best to use?
 
I need to change my vote. Out today trying different climbing methods. On my Shikar sticks the attachment method came loose. All my fault. On the first stick I came down fast. Hit the ground like a 235 lb. guy can.
All I can say is those Shikar sticks are sharp. Totaled out my coat and shirt. Nice little cut to my upper arm and hand. Going back to 3 LWCG long sticks and 3 Apex steps.View attachment 92255
Damn dude. Glad you’re (mostly) okay. Take care of yourself!
 
Correct, but in the real world there is more to worry about than OSHA regs. ANSI would probably carry more weight than OSHA in a civil court, as it is more comprehensive. My state’s recently revised OSHA rules still talk about which Manila rope is best to use?
My father in law was an arborist in the 70s. He told me he once descended on Manila too quickly, after pruning an eastern white pine .

It resulted in the prussic melting the Manila and bonding the two together. He was 40' up .
 
My father in law was an arborist in the 70s. He told me he once descended on Manila too quickly, after pruning an eastern white pine .

It resulted in the prussic melting the Manila and bonding the two together. He was 40' up .
I watched a YT video yesterday about prusiking to ascend/descend, and the instructor mentioned this was a possibility depending on your materials and system. Holy crap, didn’t even think much of it while I was watching but it’s wild to read a real example of it.
 
My father in law was an arborist in the 70s. He told me he once descended on Manila too quickly, after pruning an eastern white pine .

It resulted in the prussic melting the Manila and bonding the two together. He was 40' up .
Once you reach the ground after bombing out, you need to pull rope through the device, or hitch until things cool down.
 
I bet this fella could add a few “mishaps” to this list!!!

I'm can only hope he's trying to be funny and not serious. Also hope those are hog rubbed trees that he's climbing and not dead ones.
 
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I am at a loss for words. Free climbing on gaffs with a giant hunk of metal on your back? And suggesting that it's safe, to people who don't know any better? Wow.
I can't believe these people are bold enough to put these videos out for liability reasons. The guy is an obvious moron and some poor sap may try to emulate that one day and kill himself
 
I'm can only hope he's trying to be funny and not serious.
unfortunately he is probably serious. Down here i know a ton of guys who use spurs or climb with other methods and never wear any sort of harness what so ever and every single year LDWF or the local news has a story about a hunter that fell from their stand and had to be airlifted out or didnt make it...we had several last year on multiple WMAs..
 
I can't believe these people are bold enough to put these videos out for liability reasons. The guy is an obvious moron and some poor sap may try to emulate that one day and kill himself
Did you read the comments? He kept responding to criticisms with some variation of "it's safer than it looks" or "I feel totally safe". I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist, so I don't want him taken down or anything... but I'm absolutely free to suggest that if he isn't a moron he's the worst kind of malignant troll. To think we're arguing over leg straps a few clicks away, and we've got this going on over here...
 
Did you read the comments? He kept responding to criticisms with some variation of "it's safer than it looks" or "I feel totally safe". I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist, so I don't want him taken down or anything... but I'm absolutely free to suggest that if he isn't a moron he's the worst kind of malignant troll. To think we're arguing over leg straps a few clicks away, and we've got this going on over here...
Wow....no words.

Gaffs are no joke. On another forum I'm a member of, a climber was instructing a groundie on how to ascend a spar. Long story short: The groundie ended up spiking the climber's groin.

Poor guy ended up hospitalized with sepsis (trees are dirty). Not trying to be Captain Safety, but they can seriously ruin someone's day in untrained hands (legs?)
 
Did you read the comments? He kept responding to criticisms with some variation of "it's safer than it looks" or "I feel totally safe". I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist, so I don't want him taken down or anything... but I'm absolutely free to suggest that if he isn't a moron he's the worst kind of malignant troll. To think we're arguing over leg straps a few clicks away, and we've got this going on over here...


Do you want to take over around here for me?

Thanks
 
Several years ago, I bought some gaffs thinking they would be great for hunting. After almost gaffing my left ankle with the right spike right out of the gate I quickly decided that this was not for me.

Also, I am certain the dude who made that video was 100% serious.
 
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