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Sasquatch

Realistically I doubt they exist, but it's possible
You have to accept a really low standard of pproof to claim bigfoot is possible.

Is it possible that bigfoot is a trans-dimensional being who is spying on earth for the Greys? If so, then pretty much anything is possible. Healing crystals. Telepathy. Spirit mediums. Lizard people...

It's all fun and games when it's just America's favorite cryptid, but low standards of proof are a persistent problem.

I'm trying to incorporate 2 litmus tests into my beliefs.

One, can you propose a way to disprove it. What would be compelling evidence that the latest conspiracy theory was wrong, your favorite starman didn't exist, or bigfoot didn't steal your natty light. If you can't disprove it, you can't prove it either.

Two, are you living your life as though the belief was real. Do you wear your tin hat. Do you carry bigfoot spray. Are you unable to jerk off in private because Santa Claus sees you as literally as Grandma does, and you definitely wouldnt jerk off with her in the room. Do you really believe, or are we just playing fun little games in the magical world of forms.
 
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You have to accept a really low standard of pproof to claim bigfoot is possible.

Is it possible that bigfoot is a trans-dimensional being who is spying on earth for the Greys? If so, then pretty much anything is possible. Healing crystals. Telepathy. Spirit mediums. Lizard people...

It's all fun and games when it's just America's favorite cryptid, but low standards of proof are a persistent problem.

I'm trying to incorporate 2 litmus tests into my beliefs.

One, can you propose a way to disprove it. What would be compelling evidence that the latest conspiracy theory was wrong, your favorite starman didn't exist, or bigfoot didn't steal your natty light. If you can't disprove it, you can't prove it either.

Two, are you living your life as though the belief was real. Do you wear your tin hat. Do you carry bigfoot spray. Are you unable to jerk off in private because Santa Claus sees everything just the same way Grandma does, and you definitely couldn't do that. Do you really belief, or are we just playing fun little games in the magical world of forms.
As a saddle hunter, here is all the proof you should need
 
I have never given the subject to much thought, because simply I don’t really care if they exist or not. I have a buddy who truly believes.

I will say any evidence right now I believe is hocus-pocus, and the people on these TV shows are a big odd. But it’s prob all about ratings

I will end with this. If one was ever found with legitimate evidence ppl would lose their minds
 
I will end with this. If one was ever found with legitimate evidence ppl would lose their minds
We've found some "cryptids" before.

Leeuwenhoek was (I think rightly) initially dismissed when he described animalcules merrily a'squirmin' in his pond water when he looked at in through a microscope. But, presented with their own microscopes and pond water, the Royal Society agreed with his findings. Although it took everybody a lot longer to agree with him that sperm merging with an egg was all that there was to human conception.

Mountain gorillas weren't "discovered" until 1902. Previously they were dismissed as cryptids. But the scientific community had no problem accepting them.

Similar story with giant squids, but more recently if I remember right.

Like @NMSbowhunter mentioned, the coelacanth is another example of cryptid made flesh.

Bigfoot will lose all his appeal if he's ever proven real. His fans will ditch him for Mothra, the Thunderbird, and Lizard folk.

There are often mutated humans for example gigantism where the bones in the body continue to grow eventually even outgrowing what the muscle density and internal organs can sufficiently support. Andre the Giant is a well known person who suffered from that disease. There are also mutations that can cause someone to be hairy. I have no reason to believe these genetic defaults wouldn’t have existed when Natives had control of this continent. So I think legends of big foot, Sasquatch or “skunk ape” as it is know in Florida probably stemmed from some people being outcast for mutated genetics. I mean surely somewhere in West Virginia, there was some giant hairy scary tribal men that was banned to the wilderness to help keep the genetics of the tribe heathy. That could easily have led to a legends from tribes or even settlers who might have never encountered someone with those types of genetic diseases. So I believe it’s a myth but I also believe there are small portions of real events that may have triggered those myths- (a little bit of fire, beneath all that smoke- you know how word gets around)

I think a cleaner theory is the one proposed by Daniel Dennet in either Breaking the Spell or Bacteria to Bach.

Memes replicate in the human mind: the same as microorganisms in the human body. Certain traits allow them to replicate more effectively.

The mind is a pattern detector that predicts future based on past inputs. As long as the current inputs match up with the prior ones, we don't "notice" much. But, was soon as novelty is introduced, and alarm is triggered. One car in a stream of traffic swerves suddenly. A gunshot rings out in a silent meadow. We notice one book turned backwards on a bookshelf. Your dog stands up on his back legs and starts talking to you about the latest political polls...

Last one got your attention, right? Dennet proposes that memes thrive in a sweet spot between mundane and incomprehensible. You have to have just the right degree of novelty if you wanna survive in the human mind amongst the other memes and outreplicate them. Too little and you're background noise. Too much and you're dismissed as gibberish.

According to Dennett, the Bigfoot meme hits the sweet spot. You can understand what he is (imagine a man, but bigger and hairier) but he's strange enough that he sticks out more than your kids soccer games or traffic or what you ate for dinner today. You think about him more and more. Mayne he's a little funny to you. Maybe he's a little scary. Maybe he's inspiring. You can't help but share him with other minds, who are also enticed by the novelty.

Share him enough, and get enough people to feel a thing, and he's hard to get rid of.
 
One, can you propose a way to disprove it. What would be compelling evidence that the latest conspiracy theory was wrong, your favorite starman didn't exist, or bigfoot didn't steal your natty light. If you can't disprove it, you can't prove it either.

Two, are you living your life as though the belief was real. Do you wear your tin hat. Do you carry bigfoot spray. Are you unable to jerk off in private because Santa Claus sees you as literally as Grandma does, and you definitely wouldnt jerk off with her in the room. Do you really believe, or are we just playing fun little games in the magical world of forms.
To me I've not seen or heard enough compelling evidence that it does or does not exist. Unfortunately, there's always going to be people that want some notoriety and newer tech makes it easier to fake stuff, so we may never know for sure unless we actually catch one or find the remains of one. As we've discussed here there's been plenty of animals that started off as myth or extinct but were then discovered, and the fact that the scientific community hasn't put together a serious effort to prove or disprove their existence, along with the fact that there is large swaths of wilderness in the country that do not have a consistent human presence, is why I'm keeping an open mind about their existence.

Way to disprove their existence? Sure, much like some scientists tried to with the Loch Ness monster using a line of boats all using sonar, using thermal imaging in the same way we could potentially canvas large amounts of land to look for them, and even that will not be 100% conclusive. Will we ever do that? Probably not because the cost and effort it would take. Loch Ness was in comparison a relatively small area and therefore easier to coordinate and fund.

Am I living life as though it was real? Nope! The existence of Bigfoot doesn't change my life, unless I'm in the woods and directly have an interaction with one. I think the existence of Aliens visiting our planet would be more impactful than the existence of bigfoot.

And aren't we all having a little fun with this topic? The mystery and possibility is part of the fun of it!
 
88 billion game cameras out there now and no pics? I also don't believe in the Easter bunny :tearsofjoy:

How many “never had him on camera” stories have we heard about bucks that got killed?

I did some surveying for a journalist who is also a Bigfoot guy and has written at least one book on the subject. Good dude, super nice. Anyway, he look in the back of my truck, deduced I was a hunter and asked me my feelings on Bigfoot. I told him I didn’t believe they existed, but didn’t have the hubris to say they absolutely do not exist. A Bigfoot agnostic, if you will.

He accepted that gracefully and we talked more about it some more with me asking questions and him answering them. Finally I told him that I hoped what I had to say wasn’t somehow offensive to him, but if I saw Bigfoot while hunting I would kill him on the spot if he showed any inclination towards addressing me. The. I would call him to come get the carcass and leave, never naming me or where Bigfoot was killed because I neither want, nor need the notoriety.
 
I have gotten hooked on Steve Isdahl’s YouTube channel “the facts by how to hunt”


He is a hunting guide in Canada. A while back, he shared his encounter story with Sasquatch. Then people started sending in experiences to him. It organically took off and he has a lot of content. He reads encounters sent in by viewers. Some you can tell is blarney, but some sounds like it can be plausible IMO.

If you ever are bored and are so inclined, watch some of his videos. Go back to the start of the whole Sasquatch topic.

Have I ever seen a Sasquatch, no. Do I know someone who has, yes. That person, like I would guess many others, are disinclined to share their experience, as it leads to scorn and ridicule. It took over 3 decades for that person to tell me. Just read over the responses here for examples of scorn or ridicule.

do i believe for sure or know they exist, no. Do I think their existence on this third rock from the sun is possible, yes.

Do I ever want to see one when in the woods by myself, heck no. Do I avoid the woods because of this, heck no.
 
I have gotten hooked on Steve Isdahl’s YouTube channel “the facts by how to hunt”


He is a hunting guide in Canada. A while back, he shared his encounter story with Sasquatch. Then people started sending in experiences to him. It organically took off and he has a lot of content. He reads encounters sent in by viewers. Some you can tell is blarney, but some sounds like it can be plausible IMO.

If you ever are bored and are so inclined, watch some of his videos. Go back to the start of the whole Sasquatch topic.

Have I ever seen a Sasquatch, no. Do I know someone who has, yes. That person, like I would guess many others, are disinclined to share their experience, as it leads to scorn and ridicule. It took over 3 decades for that person to tell me. Just read over the responses here for examples of scorn or ridicule.

do i believe for sure or know they exist, no. Do I think their existence on this third rock from the sun is possible, yes.

Do I ever want to see one when in the woods by myself, heck no. Do I avoid the woods because of this, heck no.
OK, I had a little time and looked at the first BF video where BF broke some big tree branches. They had me convinced that either BF is real or these guys are going to alot of trouble.
Then it hit me, the big hole in their story.
The story goes, BF came across one of there game cams. Approaches the camera at a angle so not to have his picture taken. Then turns the cam around so it cannot take his picture in the future. Wow BF must be one smart animal.
Now BF lives in the wilderness. How does BF know what a game cam is??
How does BF know what a picture is??
OK, BF must have internet access.
Or maybe he gets a Bass Pro catalog every year!
I know who broke those tree branches, the guys making the video.
 
OK, I had a little time and looked at the first BF video where BF broke some big tree branches. They had me convinced that either BF is real or these guys are going to alot of trouble.
Then it hit me, the big hole in their story.
The story goes, BF came across one of there game cams. Approaches the camera at a angle so not to have his picture taken. Then turns the cam around so it cannot take his picture in the future. Wow BF must be one smart animal.
Now BF lives in the wilderness. How does BF know what a game cam is??
How does BF know what a picture is??
OK, BF must have internet access.
Or maybe he gets a Bass Pro catalog every year!
I know who broke those tree branches, the guys making the video.

It’s all good. Unless and until there is incontrovertible proof of the existence or non-existence of Sasquatch, we all have our beliefs/thoughts, one way or the other. I am not trying to be a Sasquatch apologist or a Sasquatch debunker; however, I am just sharing my musing on the topic.
 
It's funny, my dad's an avid believer, we even did a podcast episode about it!

I feel like there has to be something to it for there to be so many legends about them, historical sightings, and current day sightings. You can't tell me that native peoples that spent their entire lives in wilderness, misidentified a bear enough to create these legends.

Add to that the fact that while we may have billions of cameras in the woods, they're generally confined to relatively condensed areas. A lot of the wilderness hardly ever, if ever, gets people spending enough time out there to say for sure Bigfoot are not out there.
And not one has ever made a mistake?
Mountain lions are rare and elusive and we catch them on game cams every year in states like Iowa, Missouri, etc... and they have no breeding population in those states.
In this age, hunters and hikers go farther and deeper into the wilderness than ever before, in higher numbers than ever before.
Every fall, tens of thousands of hunters sit atop mountains with spotters for days on end in an attempt to locate their game animals.
In the thousands of years of our human existence, exploring previously undiscovered territories, hunting, gathering, fishing, hiking, and nobody has ever captured real evidence of a bigfoot.
It's a fairy tale.

I cannot tell you of how many people I have heard or read that claim they have black oanthers in their locale. Have heard this since I was kid and still hear and read these stories today.
Research shows that there never has been a black panther species anywhere in the U.S.
 
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