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Seven-Pin Sight Replacement

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Iron_llama

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So, I've been shooting the same compound bow (Bowtech Extreme VFT) since I bought it used in 2007. Other than replacing strings and cables, and re-zeroing as appropriate, I've left it as-is. It came with a 7-pin sight that I shoot well enough, and Beman ICS arrows tipped with 110gr Montecs. I bought it from a co-worker that guided for AZ elk in his spare time. I figured he knew what he was doing when he set it up, and never bothered to change anything. Since I don't shoot past about 45 yards, I have 3 pins at the top of the window, and the other 4 stacked up in the bottom, unused.

I enjoy bowhunting, but I'm a gun nut. For whatever reason, I just don't find myself geeking out over archery the same way I do over firearms. I can appreciate the differences between a Ruger American Rifle and custom Cooper rifle, but my eyes kinda glaze over when the discussion turns to archery. Now that I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better served with something different than my 7-pin sight, I'm confronted by the depths of my ignorance. I see TruGlo sights for $30 and HHAs for $360, and I can't point to what makes one better than the other, let alone worth 10x more than the other.

I read these threads about a simplified compound setup, and they make sense to me.
https://saddlehunter.com/community/...-to-killing-a-deer-with-a-compound-bow.28548/ and https://saddlehunter.com/community/...ly-with-only-one-fixed-pin-in-my-sight.16152/

So, I'm thinking that I'd like a single-pin sight I can zero at 25ish yards, but on a slider or pivot I can adjust to practice at longer ranges. I'd like it to be easier to zero than my current 7-pin. Those of you that run slider-single-pin sights, what features do you look for? What features do you avoid? What is a realistic price to pay for one of these?

Thanks in advance.
 
Iron_llama said:
So, I've been shooting the same compound bow (Bowtech Extreme VFT) since I bought it used in 2007. Other than replacing strings and cables, and re-zeroing as appropriate, I've left it as-is. It came with a 7-pin sight that I shoot well enough, and Beman ICS arrows tipped with 110gr Montecs. I bought it from a co-worker that guided for AZ elk in his spare time. I figured he knew what he was doing when he set it up, and never bothered to change anything. Since I don't shoot past about 45 yards, I have 3 pins at the top of the window, and the other 4 stacked up in the bottom, unused.

I enjoy bowhunting, but I'm a gun nut. For whatever reason, I just don't find myself geeking out over archery the same way I do over firearms. I can appreciate the differences between a Ruger American Rifle and custom Cooper rifle, but my eyes kinda glaze over when the discussion turns to archery. Now that I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better served with something different than my 7-pin sight, I'm confronted by the depths of my ignorance. I see TruGlo sights for $30 and HHAs for $360, and I can't point to what makes one better than the other, let alone worth 10x more than the other.

I read these threads about a simplified compound setup, and they make sense to me.
https://saddlehunter.com/community/...-to-killing-a-deer-with-a-compound-bow.28548/ and https://saddlehunter.com/community/...ly-with-only-one-fixed-pin-in-my-sight.16152/

So, I'm thinking that I'd like a single-pin sight I can zero at 25ish yards, but on a slider or pivot I can adjust to practice at longer ranges. I'd like it to be easier to zero than my current 7-pin. Those of you that run slider-single-pin sights, what features do you look for? What features do you avoid? What is a realistic price to pay for one of these?

Thanks in advance.
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I switched to a single pin from a 5 pin. Have yet to regret it with my bow

I set it at 25 and know 10-30 yards I don’t have to adjust my aim point

i practice out to 60 all the time and it’s so easy just to slide it to where you need it

it’s my first single pin but I went with the Troph Ridge React Pro. Got it on sale for around $225. I THINK I could have gone with a less expensive single pin and still would have been happy
 
There is some good sliders to be had on the classifieds that pop up. All seem to adjust a little bit different. Me personally I think they are all good. If your not a huge gear nut for archery stuff, find a good used one on here and roll with it. An adjustable is one more thing to make sure it's right. I went to one last year. I could take it or leave it. I may put my fixed back on. See how the summer goes. To have a adjustable sight and not really adjust it seems weird to me. I'm no expert archer by any means, or shoot tight groups at 70yards. I'm a 35 and in kinda guy. But If you wanna save some money, try a used one. See if you like it. What you like about it, and what you don't.
 
I put an HHA optimizer single pin on my Mathews Helim in 2012 when I bought it used and I rarely touch sight except to re-zero if I change arrow set ups. I zero it to about 22 yards. knowing I will need to hold a touch low very close and a touch high at 25 to 27 yards. I then practice a lot at unknown distances and weird angles until I can place the arrow where I want it.

I'd do like MattMan81 suggests and keep an eye on the classifieds. If not, I believe HHA sells a very basic single pin slider that is not too pricey, or they used too.
 
I run an HHA Optimizer on my bowtech. I like hha as they have lifetime warranty and last I knew were American made and they do a lot of work with veterans. Sliders can get really expensive really fast, I think because the pricey ones tend to be mostly metal construction and strict tolerances. I like the optimizer as you can order different pin size, different scope size, and get a rheostat if you want. I usually keep mine set at 25 and just hold under or over as necessary. I really like the uncluttered sight picture of a single pin. However, I practice out to much further distance (60 yards) to keep the skills sharp and the slider makes that easy. Some folks have the argument what if the deer makes a sudden change in direction or whatnot and you have to side your pin? For me that hasn’t been an issue as I range out known yardages anyway and just hold under or over, or I usually have enough time to slide the pin if I felt it necessary. I guess maybe big woods or western hunters might need to make a last minute adjustment but I hunt snarl that’s right in your face so it’s a moot point.
 
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