Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+
Hindsight I should of just posted my pics and asked for guesses.Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+... Not to boast but I am pretty good at guessing deer and got 3/10. I guessed my buddy's 2 eights right down to the inch and I am usually within 5" as far as gross score goes. These bucks are live, on film, who is to say they were harvested and scored and during what period? I would take that test and the results with a grain of salt for sure. The trickiest area for scoring by eye is the 135"-165" range for sure but between 100"-135" and anything over 165" with a clean typical frame is pretty easy guess work. Yes, some surprise you, but I have rarely been outside of 10" on a gross guess since I started taping and watching people score deer.
Maybe I'll get some of my euros together and tape them, you guys can post guesses and after a week ill post the results.
Now to find the time to do so...
What's this tip to tip measurement? I know the P&Y sheet has it listed but I don't remember it getting added into the actual score anywhere (but also just going from memory).Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.
I have found the following since I started paying attention to deer and their scores.
- 8 pointers are really handicapped when the tape comes out. @Deltahuntr's big 8 is extremely impressive to me. If you're into score and an 8 walks out, he probably doesn't break into the books unless he gives you a heart attack.
- Width and generally how "wide open" a deer's antlers look really help his score. I guess because that kinda gets measured 3 times (inside spread, tip-to-tip, and widest span)
- It's really hard to gauge a deer just by looking at a picture. Some angles really help/hurt deer.
- Body size can definitely make me underestimate a buck by a good 10-20". I get that in theory a bucks eye is 4" around, his ears are 6" long, and his ear tip spread should be about 15-16"...but that Texas look (big antlers on a small body) gets my juices going and the same rack on a 250lb corn and acorn fed behemoth just doesn't look as impressive at first glance.
- I generally tend to underscore
One thing to remember is width is only one measurement. But to your point if he’s wide and carries out his width for most his rack, then that normally equates to long main beam measurements. Long main beams and tine length do a lot more for score than any other measurement in my opinion.Yeah, I have no idea if they taped the deer or not. I also don't know how much I trust their scoring ap.
I have found the following since I started paying attention to deer and their scores.
- 8 pointers are really handicapped when the tape comes out. @Deltahuntr's big 8 is extremely impressive to me. If you're into score and an 8 walks out, he probably doesn't break into the books unless he gives you a heart attack.
- Width and generally how "wide open" a deer's antlers look really help his score. I guess because that kinda gets measured 3 times (inside spread, tip-to-tip, and widest span)
- It's really hard to gauge a deer just by looking at a picture. Some angles really help/hurt deer.
- Body size can definitely make me underestimate a buck by a good 10-20". I get that in theory a bucks eye is 4" around, his ears are 6" long, and his ear tip spread should be about 15-16"...but that Texas look (big antlers on a small body) gets my juices going and the same rack on a 250lb corn and acorn fed behemoth just doesn't look as impressive at first glance.
- I generally tend to underscore
I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.What's this tip to tip measurement? I know the P&Y sheet has it listed but I don't remember it getting added into the actual score anywhere (but also just going from memory).
Agreed it asks for those measurement but only one spread measurement actually count (again from memory). The others are just for rack identification or something along those lines. 4 mass on each side, tines and main beam length and spread and for typical, it's basically the shorter tine from each side length unless you are talking gross and not net numbers. Most guys giving numbers on the internet will give you the biggest possible number which means gross and most likely green gross score.I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.
Tines and main beam length definitely add up but it seems to me looking at record book photos that a wide deer scores a good bit better than one with identical tines but a higher/narrower/closed rack.
Also @Nutterbuster I don't think that quiz is accurate... There is no way in hell that gangly 6 point makes 116"+... Not to boast but I am pretty good at guessing deer and got 3/10. I guessed my buddy's 2 eights right down to the inch and I am usually within 5" as far as gross score goes. These bucks are live, on film, who is to say they were harvested and scored and during what period? I would take that test and the results with a grain of salt for sure. The trickiest area for scoring by eye is the 135"-165" range for sure but between 100"-135" and anything over 165" with a clean typical frame is pretty easy guess work. Yes, some surprise you, but I have rarely been outside of 10" on a gross guess since I started taping and watching people score deer.
Maybe I'll get some of my euros together and tape them, you guys can post guesses and after a week ill post the results.
Now to find the time to do so...
Only the inside spread gets added to the score and it can't exceed the longer main beam measurement. Generally width is the least important measurement for a deer to score high.I don't know how the math works since I've always just punched the measurements into the B&C calculator. But I know it asks for inside spread at the widest point parallell the the antler bases (or something along those lines...don't measure all cattywampus), tis5ance between the tips of the main beams, and the widest measurement parallel the antler bases.
Tines and main beam length definitely add up but it seems to me looking at record book photos that a wide deer scores a good bit better than one with identical tines but a higher/narrower/closed rack.
I was more low than high, the only one I got right was the smallest one, but I was usually only 5-10 inches off. Hunt in Maryland but pretty new so boots on the ground time is lower, I've seen one single deer that would measure 100+ while hunting. He's my new "Target buck" meaning I'll walk back to the same area I saw him once.Were you high or low consistently? And what state do you hunt if you don't mind me asking?