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Simple SRT video

I have 2 Ropes. My main one is 45 feet and the second one that never gets used is 65. I figured out that you only really need a rope long enough to reach the ground from the highest limb you're going to throw to. At first I thought it had to be long enough to have both ends touching the ground once it was over the limb so I could run the tag end through the girth hitch. But I figured out that with the throw line tied to the tag end of the rope, if the rope wasnt long enough I could leave the throw line tied to it and run that through the girth hitch and use the throw line to pull the tag end through the girth hitch. As long as the rope will reach from the ground to the limb once it is on the tree. The throw line once tied to the tag end essentially lengthens the rope if that make sense. So you could honestly get by with 35 feet if you were trying to cut down on weight and bulk.
 
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The weird part is I dont SRT nearly as much as I should. I have several different sticks and spurs that I use too. I can't settle on a climbing system lol. SRT is by far the coolest and lightest way I climb. It all depends on the hunt, If I'm going into a new spot and dont have a clue which tree I'll be in I take one stick with an aider or my SRT system depending on how I feel that day. If its one of my known good spots on public land I have preset trees with paracord for SRT. If I'm just going out for a quick hunt on my farm in a new spot without a preset tree I take my spurs. And if I'm on my farm in one of my spots that are good every year I have a bunch of ladder sticks left over from my treestand days that I leave set up at those spots so I can sneak in and climb up with minimal sound and movement. If I was just going to have one climbing system it would be SRT though. Its so light and fast and super safe that its in my opinion the best climbing system. I think it is just so daunting for people to figure out on their own or by watching Youtube videos of arborist with their extremely expensive SRT systems that people dont think they can do it. Thats why I made this video. To show how easy and inexpensive it can be. I hope it works out for you and you enjoy doing it. Honestly saddle hunting is as much about the saddle and gear as the hunt for me. In the same way that rabbit hunters love taking their dogs out and watching them work more than shooting rabbits. Its so much fun to just climb a tree with SRT and hang from a saddle then rappel down.
 
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JCLINE84 said:
I normally just throw it over a limb then girth hitch around the tree trunk so it's not an issue. I pass the throw line around the tree before I attach the climbing rope so it goes up around the tree. Pay close attention in the part of the video where I send the rope up the tree and where I show how to attach the paracord to retrieve the rope and you can see how I had it around the trunk and not the limb. I would just buy the hardware used on Ebay or off the classifieds here if you can and save a lot of money.
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Do you ever have issues using this method as you get higher and closer to the tree trunk? Meaning: If you girth hitch the climbing rope to the trunk, would the distance you are from the tree get smaller the higher you go up? Does this make the climbing harder, since it will want to push you towards the tree?
 
SH4896 said:
Do you ever have issues using this method as you get higher and closer to the tree trunk? Meaning: If you girth hitch the climbing rope to the trunk, would the distance you are from the tree get smaller the higher you go up? Does this make the climbing harder, since it will want to push you towards the tree?
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No its not an issue at all. Actually seems like the closer you get to the end of the rope the easier it gets because the rope becomes more stable
 
JCLINE84 said:
No its not an issue at all. Actually seems like the closer you get to the end of the rope the easier it gets because the rope becomes more stable
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Cool, good to know. Going to get the right gear and give this a try. Looks really easy. Hate carrying sticks!
 
JCLINE84 said:
I normally just throw it over a limb then girth hitch around the tree trunk so it's not an issue. I pass the throw line around the tree before I attach the climbing rope so it goes up around the tree. Pay close attention in the part of the video where I send the rope up the tree and where I show how to attach the paracord to retrieve the rope and you can see how I had it around the trunk and not the limb. I would just buy the hardware used on Ebay or off the classifieds here if you can and save a lot of money.
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Thankd, I missed that in my first watch.
 
drew said:
awesome job JCLINE84 ! I used to do something similar when I was getting my daughter used to climbing (not for hunting). We used a grigri, petzel ascender and a pulley. Tons of fun in the yard for her. diagram below on how we used to set up. I love this site.View attachment 7240
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This is about spot on to my system. The only difference is I use an oval carabiner instead of a pulley
 
Gear list
9-11mm static rope 35-45 feet
Hand Ascender
Foot aider
Oval carabiner or pulley
Mad Rock lifeguard or Grigri
Throw bag and throw line

Can substitute ropeman 1 for lifeguard or grigri but you'll need a rappel device and prusik loop to rappel down
 
JCLINE84 said:
Gear list
9-11mm static rope 35-45 feet
Hand Ascender
Foot aider
Oval carabiner or pulley
Mad Rock lifeguard or Grigri
Throw bag and throw line

Can substitute ropeman 1 for lifeguard or grigri but you'll need a rappel device and prusik loop to rappel down
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What MM rope are you running and what do you prefer?
 
JCLINE84 said:
It would definitely be cheaper to use a figure 8 and prusik or an ATC and prusik.
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Do you mean 2 prusik's for the climb and ATC or Figure 8 to rappel down? I guess you could rig the ATC/8 for the climb up but I dont think it's a replacement for an ABD, I think you still need 2 prusiks. I have used a ropeman 2 in place of my hand ascender and I had the lifeguard but returned it because the grigri rappel was a lot smoother.

Also while you can get away with only a rope the length that you climb, its nice to have the option of doing a 2 rope rappel with an ATC because it makes the rope retrieval a lot easier. You just wrap the rope around the tree, but you need a good sized branch. I carry one 60 foot rope, rope can be bulky but I'd rather carry 20 more feet just in case, the weight difference is negligible.

Also I posted in your other thread where you asked for the interest and I think it's worth mentioning here. Please be extremely careful with the assisted braking devices (ABD) which accounts for your Grigri or Lifeguard they are not designed to be used without your brake hand on the tag end of the rope. Especially while rappelling. Be careful and follow the manufacturer's instructions.

Also consider keeping 2 attachment points at all times, I keep a daisy chain for this reason, it connects the hand ascender to the grigri or harness, which will shorten your climbing strok(longer daisy chain might change that, hmmm) but keeps you connected to that rope in 2 places.


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donnieballgame said:
Do you mean 2 prusik's for the climb and ATC or Figure 8 to rappel down? I guess you could rig the ATC/8 for the climb up but I dont think it's a replacement for an ABD, I think you still need 2 prusiks. I have used a ropeman 2 in place of my hand ascender and I had the lifeguard but returned it because the grigri rappel was a lot smoother.

Also while you can get away with only a rope the length that you climb, its nice to have the option of doing a 2 rope rappel with an ATC because it makes the rope retrieval a lot easier. You just wrap the rope around the tree, but you need a good sized branch. I carry one 60 foot rope, rope can be bulky but I'd rather carry 20 more feet just in case, the weight difference is negligible.

Also I posted in your other thread where you asked for the interest and I think it's worth mentioning here. Please be extremely careful with the assisted braking devices (ABD) which accounts for your Grigri or Lifeguard they are not designed to be used without your brake hand on the tag end of the rope. Especially while rappelling. Be careful and follow the manufacturer's instructions.

Also consider keeping 2 attachment points at all times, I keep a daisy chain for this reason, it connects the hand ascender to the grigri or harness, which will shorten your climbing strok(longer daisy chain might change that, hmmm) but keeps you connected to that rope in 2 places.


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I meant you have to have an ATC and prusik if you didnt have an ABD to rappel and were using a ropeman in place of the ABD which does work but I prefer the ABD.
 
Thanks for the video and this looks very interesting but I have a few questions:
  • How likely is it that the throw bag would get stuck somewhere up in the tree due to an errant throw or interfering branch?
  • I think always girth hitching around the trunk makes a lot of sense, but even with a girth hitch could the branch break and if so, do you think the rope would slide down the tree or would the girth hitch alone hold it in place?
  • How well does this method work with leaning trees?
  • How well does this method work with trees that have many lower branches on them?
 
I'd have to see those carabiners to trust them, but the rope looks good to me. Those sewn eyes might not be useful by themselves. You may need to use a screwlink, which is fine. Some people use carabiners, but I don't like to load carabiners that way.
 
okccj said:
Thanks for the video and this looks very interesting but I have a few questions:
  • How likely is it that the throw bag would get stuck somewhere up in the tree due to an errant throw or interfering branch?
  • I think always girth hitching around the trunk makes a lot of sense, but even with a girth hitch could the branch break and if so, do you think the rope would slide down the tree or would the girth hitch alone hold it in place?
  • How well does this method work with leaning trees?
  • How well does this method work with trees that have many lower branches on them?
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-I've had my throw bag get stuck once or twice, if you tie the correct knot it will come loose with a really good pull.
-For the girth hitch the rule of thumb that I got from the arborist's on Youtube was the size of your thigh, if it's that size or bigger than just the branch is ok, if it's smaller than you need to girth hitch around the tree. The rope will hold with just a girth hitch, much like your tether, the problem is getting the rope up there, you can go down that way, if you get up there and realize that branch isn't as strong as you thought, you can reposition the rope and I've done that before, can't remember why. Also, I've left climbing webbing wrapped around a tree with a locking carabiner, I think I wrapped 5 pulled 2, but 3-1 would also work. Also a screw link is better for that method.
-a leaning tree doesn't matter, you will just spin around a little while climbing it's annoying but not difficult or unsafe. \
-I struggle with a lot of branches getting your throw line in the right spot, a lot of the time with lots of branches it will require 2 perfect throws, which can be difficult, one over the branch you wanted, the second over the one below it and to the ground so that girth hitch doesn't grab multiple branches. I have climbed up like that with multiple branches girth hitched and then fixed the rope while in the tree, but that can be a pain and take time. The biggest issue is time spent throwing that darn bag, I feel like I'm pretty good at it now, but it can still take a few minutes, I would recommend doing it while post seasons scouting and leaving it up there. Oh some folks on here mentioned 50lb braided fishing line and a sling shot with lead weights, I haven't tried that yet, but you could probably get it done very quickly assuming you were accurate. I don't like the fishing line idea because I use the 550 cord to pull up my bow.

Sry that got rather lengthy, hope that helps.
 
Flyerzfan10 said:
Would this rope work for SRT? View attachment 7267
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The rope looks fine, I would cut one end and punch a hot nail through it and add a small 550 loop to one end and a delta screw to the other(keeping the sewn eye) if your rope isn't long enough to go through the delta screw(loop) on the ground, then you can use the small 550 cord loop to pull it through which is much easier than pulling your knot or loop with the delta screw through the tree.
 
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