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Single stick climbing technique

As in a sling said:
I agree, I want to incorporate that. Coming down was the more difficult part of the one stick method when I tried it.
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Using the one sticking I found that if you climb to the bottom step and then put your feet on the tree below it and climb down until your tether gets tight that gives you room to slide the stick down a little further. I hope that makes sense
 
smcchevy said:
I'd just be interested in how aider attaches to the stacked outdoors stick, I really want to order one.
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Like I said, nothing fancy. Just effective.
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TNSTAAFL said:
Like I said, nothing fancy. Just effective.
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I never held a stacked outdoors stick, but my impression from pictures is I’d be careful tying an aider that way. My hunch is that whatever stress analysis was done in the design of this stick did not include force placed on that joint. So unless I knew otherwise, I would only put weight on the top of the steps for these sticks.

Can’t trust plastic the way we trust metal. Use plastic devices only (mostly?) as prescribed.

This is just like, my opinion... man.


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It is a polymer stick, but if you had one in your hand you might be less inclined to be nervous about its ruggedness.

Appreciate the concern about the aider attachment. I will think on it some more and perhaps experiment. So far it has practiced flawlessly. Aiders are an extra risk in a lot of ways , and no stick was designed to 1-stick with. Almost any way you attach an aider changes the load to a stick. Some methods are more reasonable than others for sure. I will look at it some more. I have a couple months before that style is called into action.

I'm definitely not advocating for anyone to do this. My setups are my risk assessments and acceptance only. Maybe I shouldn't even post the pics. There's a constant tension here between experimentation and sharing ideas with one another on the one hand, and safety/responsibility/liabilty on the other.
 
I'd say that area is exactly where the designer intended the load to go. The weight is transferred from the step to the tree.

When I order one of those that's where I'm putting my aider. :)
 
TNSTAAFL said:
It is a polymer stick, but if you had one in your hand you might be less inclined to be nervous about its ruggedness.

Appreciate the concern about the aider attachment. I will think on it some more and perhaps experiment. So far it has practiced flawlessly. Aiders are an extra risk in a lot of ways , and no stick was designed to 1-stick with. Almost any way you attach an aider changes the load to a stick. Some methods are more reasonable than others for sure. I will look at it some more. I have a couple months before that style is called into action.

I'm definitely not advocating for anyone to do this. My setups are my risk assessments and acceptance only. Maybe I shouldn't even post the pics. There's a constant tension here between experimentation and sharing ideas with one another on the one hand, and safety/responsibility/liabilty on the other.
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I think it is fine to post pictures. I do think it is a nifty spot to attach. The other thing is if you’re “one sticking” you’re going to be tethered to tree so that mitigates my concern a lot. Just have an alternate way to get down.


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Let’s just say nothing good happened lol. At first it was going well yet just uncomfortable(prob because new techniques take practice). Once my stick fell out from under me I tried to pull it back up just to realize it was in a tangle. Wife had to rescue me and now I have to pour her lots of wine lol


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I was one sticking today in my hunting area and after resetting the stick 4 times I thought I was high. I measured with my laser disatnce measure when I was standing on platform at 15 feet to platform. One sticking seemed to take forever with all the stick resetting. Later, I descended to retrieve a plastic clip from my knee pad and RADS back up. Later, I clipped on my rope retrieval line and descended. The knot on the rope was stuck in the loop so RADS back up and hanging from tether removed rappel rope and retied the figure eight knot. Getting my weight transferred to my lower tether so I could remove the rappel rope involved swinging partway around the tree. I had moved my tether and rappel line up above the first branch making all this necessary. Anyway, one sticking up and down multiple times would have been most unpleasant and slow. I think I will try my rope push pole again to get the rope up. Once the rope is at height RADS is the easiest, fastest and most secure method I have found. I posted about my push pole adventures on here somewhere. With my push pole method I could have done the first 15 feet in one shot.
 
Squirrels said:
I'm 100% sold on one sticking with my 14" mini stick and 2 step aider. I rappel down. I use one tether that's about 8 foot long (OpLux) with a Beal Jammy cut and tied in Distel hitch with a tender I made from guy line and 1/2" brass tack ring. My second tether used (if I need to get around branches) is my rappel rope with a screw link on the end (that way I don't have to girth hitch all 36' through the figure eight loop tied on the end). System works great. I've used a mini versa strap from Tethrd for the stick strap, I've also used a Lone Wold cam buckle strap. Not sure which I like better. I have ordered a cam cleat just to see if I like that better on the stick. I'll settle on one eventually.
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I am basically doing the same.... just a couple questions.
1. What type of screw link are you using?
2. Do you have any problems pulling it down once you get on ground? I use the rope i pull my bow up with and clip to girth hitch so when i get down i can pull it down but it can be tough to pull down and scared it will get stuck.
3. What type if pack are you carrying your gear in with and are you wearing your saddle in?
4. Platform or ROS?
 
eddiegomes83 said:
I am basically doing the same.... just a couple questions.
1. What type of screw link are you using?

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2. Do you have any problems pulling it down once you get on ground? I use the rope i pull my bow up with and clip to girth hitch so when i get down i can pull it down but it can be tough to pull down and scared it will get stuck. I don't have issues, I hook my pull up rope to the tag end of the rope not the loop/screw link. Basically I end up pulling the tag end of my rappel rope through the screw link. Slides super easy and many times the rope fall down the tree after you get it started.
3. What type if pack are you carrying your gear in with and are you wearing your saddle in? I will be going back and forth between a preadator pack with pouches on the saddle or a badlands reaper. All day sits the badlands will get the nod when I will need more water and some grub.
4. Platform or ROS? Platform for now but thinking of giving a ROS a shot if I decide to pull the trigger on some. I like to sit and a lot of sitters have commented that they prefer ROS.
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TNSTAAFL said:
I did one last practice climb before the season starts, single-sticking with the JX3. Man this thing tempts me to go all in and sell all my other gear.

I used the Stacked Outdoors stick and have to say that while the cam cleat of the Muddy Pro is highly effective, I really like this polymer stick, especially in conjunction with the Hybrid. Light, quiet, no moving parts, sturdy with big foot surface area. I dangle a 48" aider woven around the top bracket and through the slots in the stick so that it dangles 24" below the bottom step. The cam buckle strap is not as efficient as the cam cleat on the Muddy, but it is not hard to do, especially from the solid and comfortable seat of the JX3.

I think if you intend on using your top step of your climbing stick as a part of your platform setup you can't beat the SO stick. The company sells individual sticks at a reasonable price. Check em out if it speaks to you.
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I have the Stacked Outdoors Sticks too. What are you using as an attachment for the stick with your one stick method? Are you using the buckle strap that came with them or did you go to a rope mode and boat hitch around the Stacked polymer molded strap attachment "buttons"?
 
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