single sticking tricks to lessen tether slack and/or use a linemans?

[Gbk68]

By using a quick link you simply unscrew the opening and move the rope up. Beats having to thread the entire rappel rope through an eye.

oh. I had assumed the tether was run thru an eye. What is used...a Kong or something similar? The guy is in the video posted in this thread....was doing some sketchy climbing imo. At around the 7min mark he pretty much had so much slack a fall would’ve hurt like hell

 

[ShooterMike]

How do you move the tether around branches?

If by chance, you are located in Virginia, you are more than welcome to try out my set up.


Semper Fi,
Mike
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[Gbk68]

If by chance, you are located in Virginia, you are more than welcome to try out my set up.


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Mike
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Thanks....but a bit of a drive from the center of NYS. Lol

 

[CharlieTN]

oh. I had assumed the tether was run thru an eye. What is used...a Kong or something similar? The guy is in the video posted in this thread....was doing some sketchy climbing imo. At around the 7min mark he pretty much had so much slack a fall would’ve hurt like hell

I added a photo to my last post showing the quick link tied in. The quick link is recommended over a carabiner due to it being stronger if cross loaded.

Each person of course is responsible for their own safety and I agree there was quite a bit of slack at one point. I move my tether with each step so at the most I have roughly a 15-18” drop at most. And that of course is on a tether that will stop me without sliding down the tree or pull me directly into the tree like the lineman’s rope will.

 

[raisins]

I added a photo to my last post showing the quick link tied in. The quick link is recommended over a carabiner due to it being stronger if cross loaded.

Each person of course is responsible for their own safety and I agree there was quite a bit of slack at one point. I move my tether with each step so at the most I have roughly a 15-18” drop at most. And that of course is on a tether that will stop me without sliding down the tree or pull me directly into the tree like the lineman’s rope will.

Hownottoslackline on youtube broke screw links while crossloaded. I think it took around 40 kN to break when pulled at gate.

 

[kenn1320]

Are there any videos of what happens when you fall with a linemans belt? I would assume a nasty impaling on the stick below if multi sticking and only linemans belt. A limbless tree could be a hell of a ride to the ground.

 

[raisins]

Best 1 stick video I have seen

If you were going to introduce a Yates Screamer to absorb shock upon a fall, then would that go between the carabiner attached to the Madrock Safeguard and a second carabiner that would then be clipped to the saddle's bridge?

 

[raisins]

Are there any videos of what happens when you fall with a linemans belt? I would assume a nasty impaling on the stick below if multi sticking and only linemans belt. A limbless tree could be a hell of a ride to the ground.

There was a pretty epic thread over a year ago where whether or not a lineman's belt was fall arrest, etc was hashed out.

I've seen videos of competition lumberjacks where the guy falls to the ground a short distance and others where someone is using spikes and it grabs them pretty well. I think it depends mostly upon lineman's position on the tree (tight and above you, etc) and also the tree's bark (grabby vs smooth). Then guaranteed there is a random factor that can't be predicted. I think of it like your pants falling down with a loose belt. Sometimes it happens just right and your pants hit the ground, sometimes not.

Of course, you're eating for lunch anything you hit.

 

[CharlieTN]

Hownottoslackline on youtube broke screw links while crossloaded. I think it took around 40 kN to break when pulled at gate.

Yeah, my body will break before the screw link does. That’s 9,000 lbs of force.

 

[raisins]

Yeah, my body will break before the screw link does. That’s 9,000 lbs of force.

I think on one he broke a soft shackle trying it. I'll find the channel.


Here:

I had the channel name wrong, just got intro'd to it by a member here. It's a cool channel if you want to watch people break stuff and record.

 

[Heath]

I do. It was a bit weird at first but once I got used to the movement it’s goes smoothly. I’m actually switching over to a Shikar Mini with 3-step aider and had my first test run and it went well. One of these days I may drop the lineman’s rope for climbing in general but haven’t gotten to that point first.

Sent you a PM so as not to derail this thread. Thanks

 

[enkriss]

I want to figure out how to incorporate a qsafe into the 1 sticking ascent or make something similar in the off-season. I used one with my climber for years. This seems like it might be an applicable application.

Q-Safe Tree Strap Safety Anchor | Blinded Hunting | Ohio

Innovative Safety Anchor for Deer Hunters with patented spring technology that makes it easy to hunt safely

www.blindedhunting.com

 

[Chrighton]

I want to figure out how to incorporate a qsafe into the 1 sticking ascent or make something similar in the off-season. I used one with my climber for years. This seems like it might be an applicable application.

Q-Safe Tree Strap Safety Anchor | Blinded Hunting | Ohio

Innovative Safety Anchor for Deer Hunters with patented spring technology that makes it easy to hunt safely

www.blindedhunting.com

I thought the same the first time I saw that product. I've never laid eyes on it, just saw that video previously.

 

[sdoyle1]

I find it near impossible to drop a stick when using multiple sticks, but maybe it’s just me. My First stick hangs at 7ft and the second stick hangs off the first stick. Once I climb the first stick....I attach lineman around tree and grab/hang second stick. The 2 other sticks hang from rings of bungee material on my rock climbing harness.

I’m open to seeing the merits of the one-stick method, but I’m more than a bit dubious. how does one use this method when a tree has multiple branches to get around on their way up the tree.

I’ve read a couple instances where people have hooked their sticks accidentally when pulling up their bow or pack. This dislodged the stick and caused them some problems. This is a non issue when one sticking and rappelling.


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[TreeCreep]

Here’s what I do:

I pull down on the tag end of the rope as climb up the aider and stick.

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Mike
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Great system. I feel I keep eliminating redundancies/ back up as I change equipment.
helpful photo

 

[ShooterMike]

Great system. I feel I keep eliminating redundancies/ back up as I change equipment.
helpful photo

The mechanical advantage created by this 3:1 system, coupled with the direction of pull on the tag end makes it much easier for me.


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[Aeds151]

These are the reasons I have completely moved away from a line-mans belt all together. I plan on never using one again.


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[Gbk68]

I want to figure out how to incorporate a qsafe into the 1 sticking ascent or make something similar in the off-season. I used one with my climber for years. This seems like it might be an applicable application.

Q-Safe Tree Strap Safety Anchor | Blinded Hunting | Ohio

Innovative Safety Anchor for Deer Hunters with patented spring technology that makes it easy to hunt safely

www.blindedhunting.com

I’ve been using one for a few years with my LW sit-n-climb. They are nice....but def won’t work with small diameter trees.

 

[Jokerswild]

The q safe is a fine product but a sliding stopper does ALMOST the same thing for pennies. I like how you can throw that thing up the tree. For one stick Id still ad some handles so you dont trap your fingers under the the thing.

 

[Loucamp]

@Gbk68, I am in Rochester and one stick climbed using a combination stick/platform this year, which is also my first year saddle hunting. I have used a climber as well as sticks and a hang on. This method to me is easier and safer and doesn't limit the type of tree I can get into. I would be happy to meet up and let you try it out for youself. Might give you a better understanding. Not trying to sell you on it. Maybe I will learn from you as well.