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Tethrd’s New Lineman and Tether

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For the new 8mm ropes made by Tethrd, could you still use a ropeman 1? Or would I need to get a ropeman 2 because the specs fit that size rope?
 
I run a RM in my Lineman’s belt. And a prussic on the tether. It bites fine. But just in case....


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Not THEIR ripe. But 8mm oplux. Same same.

No issues so far. Tons of folks using ropemans o that size rope. Even on the madrock safeguards as well. Those rated for 8.5 or 9 at least. 8 works great in there as well


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Spence71 said:
Not THEIR ripe. But 8mm oplux. Same same.

No issues so far. Tons of folks using ropemans o that size rope. Even on the madrock safeguards as well. Those rated for 8.5 or 9 at least. 8 works great in there as well
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The Safeguard is rated for 8.1mm to 11mm. I could see 8mm rope working in that. But 8mm is a good 2mm to small for the ropeman 1. But if its working for guys that use them, i guess thats the ultimate answer.
 
Spence71 said:
No issues so far. Tons of folks using ropemans o that size rope.

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MAHunter said:
But if its working for guys that use them, i guess thats the ultimate answer.
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Things work great until they don't. It only takes one failure at the wrong time. There's reasons that specs are giving on climbing equipment.
 
pat said:
For the new 8mm ropes made by Tethrd, could you still use a ropeman 1? Or would I need to get a ropeman 2 because the specs fit that size rope?
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I'd sell the ropeman 1 and get a kong duck. Ropeman 2's are a pain because of their teeth design
 
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Tethryd is now selling an Oplux lineman's rope and tether? Ah, that might be why there is an Oplux shortage.
 
bj139 said:
Tethryd is now selling an Oplux lineman's rope and tether? Ah, that might be why there is an Oplux shortage.
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I dont know that they are Oplux, but for $70 (each) you could have yourself a new linesmans belt and tether! -*Sarcasm off

Im so thankful the saddle hunting community is as friendly and helpful as it is. For the life of me, i cant figure out how these companies charge 70$ for 15$ worth of rope... Its almost like they are trying to keep people from getting into it.
 
I'm anti-establishment and don't peddle anyone's gear, but I do understand the cost of their rope. Its slightly stronger than OPLUX...So at $2 a foot (about same as OPLUX), your $15 for the rope. The sewn eye is another $25. Prussik and biner another $20. You are already at $60. Then the cost of packaging and shipping...another $15. So, all of their profit is in the savings of making their own rope. It is expensive, but reasonable for what you are getting, if you prefer to buy instead of making it. My tether and LB (practically the same) cost about $42 to make...each...and I don't have a sewn eye.

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Quality Ropes are expensive, then add a sewn eye but as for the ropeman 1 or 2 question ...

Even though we keep seeing people we “trust” running ropeman 1 on 8mm ropes, I personally do not think it’s a good idea. And if you do, you should probably keep that to yourself and not influence inexperienced guys to use the one piece keeping you safe, out of recommended manufactured specs. Let everyone do their own testing and make their own decision. IMO

I am amazed when I see pictures of ropeman 1 on an 8mm rope. Seems reckless and irresponsible to me.


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always89y said:
I'm anti-establishment and don't peddle anyone's gear, but I do understand the cost of their rope. Its slightly stronger than OPLUX...So at $2 a foot (about same as OPLUX), your $15 for the rope. The sewn eye is another $25. Prussik and biner another $20. You are already at $60. Then the cost of packaging and shipping...another $15. So, all of their profit is in the savings of making their own rope. It is expensive, but reasonable for what you are getting, if you prefer to buy instead of making it. My tether and LB (practically the same) cost about $42 to make...each...and I don't have a sewn eye.
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Its not costing them 25$ for the sewn eye. Hell, wesspur charges 15$ for a sewn eye commercially. This costs pennies for them to do in house. And 15$ for the rope is our cost, not theirs at a significant discount due to the amount they purchase. Same goes for the accessory cord for the prusik. As well as the "Tethrd" branded biner. If i had to guess, their total cost, including packaging (assuming it is in a package), is less than 30$.

But dont take my word for it.. Ever wonder how items go on sale or clearance for 50% off and the company still turns a profit? Its not because they are losing money on the item "on sale".
 
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Things work great until they don't. It only takes one failure at the wrong time. There's reasons that specs are giving on climbing equipment.
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I agree 100 percent. That said I’ve been using a webbing bridge with austri alpin buckle for two years and it’s not even rated for climbing.

I have used a ropeman 1 as basically a prussik tender on my oplux linesman’s belt all season. While I haven’t had it slip enough to tighten against my prussik I have felt it take an inch or two to catch when making adjustments and leaning back into it. I have tried to make it slip once it catches and have been unable to but I still couldn’t use it on a tether.

Another thing worth mentioning is unlike a Kong duck the ropeman is carabiner dependent. So even if you actually conducted a drop test(which a ropeman doesn’t score well even when in spec) it would only be valid for that specific carabiner. Also wild country didn’t go to a toothed grab because they couldn’t change the geometry of the ropeman 1 to grab smaller diameter rope. That would be easy to engineer. There had to be a problem with those large gear type teeth on small diameter ropes or they wouldn’t have changed the teeth.
 
FWIW, I was originally a user of the Ropeman1 on my tethers. Because of the method I use to climb (one stick) I realize there is a chance of a dynamic shock load so I changed to a friction hitch on my tethers (a distal hitch in my case) and have never looked back. I actually find it easier to make the length adjustments I'm likely to need in the heat of the moment one handed with the friction hitch. In these instances I'm typically looking for a little additional tether length to help walk around the tree and I can do that one handed on a taut rope with a friction hitch. With the Ropeman I would need to unload the Ropeman and somehow release the cam one handed to get that additional length.

I do still use the Ropeman on my lineman's belt but I also am using 11mm rope there.
 
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