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Tethrd One Sticks Gen 2

kyler1945 said:
If I’ve learned anything, it’s do the opposite of what this forum consensus says, and you’ll get rich.
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which would include acting in an unscrupulous manner, since folks here typically advocate ethics in business
 
This probably won't be popular and maybe I'm in the minority but I'd figure I'd share my experience with Tethrd and the whole ONE stick debacle...

I've had some of their saddles, but saddle hunting wasn't for me and I went back to a stand. Skipped the gen 1 and waited for gen 2, when released I ordered 2 sets and sold 1 single stick, every stick I got was perfect and had no wobble. Sent all 5 i had in for recall and when they came back in about 2-3 weeks, 2 sticks had bottom step wobble to them. I emailed (and expressed my concerns, maybe not so nicely) and got a call back the next day, 4 days later I had 2 new sticks sent to me, with new stealth strips. Hard for me to complain about that...

I'm around manufacturers everyday on much larger scale than Tethrd. Things happen and are hard to control even when you're building some components yourself and buying others and assembling items "in house." Let alone getting all the build done overseas. I'm just having a hard time with all the talk that guys who's started here are now "just out to make a quick buck and don't care about people" talk. I'm sorry but running a really small business is tough enough, let alone a business with massive growth like Tethrd. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB now but let's remember this company was started with 2 regular guys who met on a forum. Maybe they've rushed things, pushed the envelope too far/too fast but I just don't believe they're doing it on purpose just to make money quick, if that was the case they'd have sold the company already (ex Hawk, many others in the industry.)

No fanboy here, I've got a mess of everyone's gear and can't understand all the hate for the group pushing the innovation. Just my 2 cents.
 
Slipnslide said:
No fanboy here, I've got a mess of everyone's gear and can't understand all the hate for the group pushing the innovation. Just my 2 cents.
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a lot of companies are innovative

tethrd didn't invite saddles and their designs are similar to others and some that were developed here with user collaboration

their predator platform is based off the mini hang ons made out of treestand seats that people have been making for years

their One stick design was based off a user here that posted his build using a carbon fiber tube with one piece double steps/standoffs that encircle the tube just like tethrd's design...if i get bored i'll find the post but there is zero doubt that tethrd was inspired by that post
 
Slipnslide said:
This probably won't be popular and maybe I'm in the minority but I'd figure I'd share my experience with Tethrd and the whole ONE stick debacle...

I've had some of their saddles, but saddle hunting wasn't for me and I went back to a stand. Skipped the gen 1 and waited for gen 2, when released I ordered 2 sets and sold 1 single stick, every stick I got was perfect and had no wobble. Sent all 5 i had in for recall and when they came back in about 2-3 weeks, 2 sticks had bottom step wobble to them. I emailed (and expressed my concerns, maybe not so nicely) and got a call back the next day, 4 days later I had 2 new sticks sent to me, with new stealth strips. Hard for me to complain about that...

I'm around manufacturers everyday on much larger scale than Tethrd. Things happen and are hard to control even when you're building some components yourself and buying others and assembling items "in house." Let alone getting all the build done overseas. I'm just having a hard time with all the talk that guys who's started here are now "just out to make a quick buck and don't care about people" talk. I'm sorry but running a really small business is tough enough, let alone a business with massive growth like Tethrd. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB now but let's remember this company was started with 2 regular guys who met on a forum. Maybe they've rushed things, pushed the envelope too far/too fast but I just don't believe they're doing it on purpose just to make money quick, if that was the case they'd have sold the company already (ex Hawk, many others in the industry.)

No fanboy here, I've got a mess of everyone's gear and can't understand all the hate for the group pushing the innovation. Just my 2 cents.
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Now just wait for the moderator to delete your post. Shall we start a Timer?
 
raisins said:
their One stick design was based off a user here that posted his build using a carbon fiber tube with one piece double steps/standoffs that encircle the tube just like tethrd's design...if i get bored i'll find the post but there is zero doubt that tethrd was inspired by that post
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I'd be interested in seeing this stick. I had no idea someone else had already done the same thing with different materials.
 
RM2 said:
I'd be interested in seeing this stick. I had no idea someone else had already done the same thing with different materials.
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humans might forget....but the internet and pepperidge farm both remember

DIY sub-1lb climbing stick adventure!

How are you attaching to the carbon tube? Any field tests yet? You're my hero.
saddlehunter.com

tethrd guys are all over the thread commenting, if they didn't float the OP some money....then that's just wrong to me
 
There was another thread that described and drew out the comfort channels that ended up in the bridge loops of the Phantom.
I never understood the need for them myself.
 
raisins said:
humans might forget....but the internet and pepperidge farm both remember

DIY sub-1lb climbing stick adventure!

How are you attaching to the carbon tube? Any field tests yet? You're my hero.
saddlehunter.com

tethrd guys are all over the thread commenting, if they didn't float the OP some money....then that's just wrong to me
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This looks very similar also… it’s the new beast stick.
The guy that designed the sticks in this post hasn’t been here since 2021? Does he work for Tethrd or does anyone know if he sold his idea ? Or are we speculating that Tethrd stole his design.
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Chrighton said:
There was another thread that described and drew out the comfort channels that ended up in the bridge loops of the Phantom.
I never understood the need for them myself.
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mattsteg said:
Their sewn products have mostly been fine, although some would argue that amsteel isn't the most appropriate material for how they use it.

Every mechanical product they've released has had safety concerns, and they haven't always been forthright in addressing them.

1st generation predator had a design weakness. They had "how to" videos posted on how to set it up in a tree...and those were silently ghosted once it became clear the platform wasn't up to it. Failures were shrugged off as "it's a positioning aid, not a stand". They'd replace platforms, but not before they broke, and only on request. Those needed a recall. I think they also failed in testing so they just revised the rating down...

In short they launched with a known defect that they refused to recall, on a "positioning aid" that their how-to videos showed Greg standing on with some slack in his teacher as he pivoted.

Gen1 one sticks were "held together with a structural weld" ... until they weren't. There was plenty of debate here on the viability of that before the sticks even shipped...so no way those failures would have blindsided them. Now this.

This is more concerning based on their history than as a one-off event. Lots of stick recalls out there from multiple brands. But I don't get warm fuzzies.
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Thank you.
 
Slipnslide said:
This probably won't be popular and maybe I'm in the minority but I'd figure I'd share my experience with Tethrd and the whole ONE stick debacle...

I've had some of their saddles, but saddle hunting wasn't for me and I went back to a stand. Skipped the gen 1 and waited for gen 2, when released I ordered 2 sets and sold 1 single stick, every stick I got was perfect and had no wobble. Sent all 5 i had in for recall and when they came back in about 2-3 weeks, 2 sticks had bottom step wobble to them. I emailed (and expressed my concerns, maybe not so nicely) and got a call back the next day, 4 days later I had 2 new sticks sent to me, with new stealth strips. Hard for me to complain about that...

I'm around manufacturers everyday on much larger scale than Tethrd. Things happen and are hard to control even when you're building some components yourself and buying others and assembling items "in house." Let alone getting all the build done overseas. I'm just having a hard time with all the talk that guys who's started here are now "just out to make a quick buck and don't care about people" talk. I'm sorry but running a really small business is tough enough, let alone a business with massive growth like Tethrd. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB now but let's remember this company was started with 2 regular guys who met on a forum. Maybe they've rushed things, pushed the envelope too far/too fast but I just don't believe they're doing it on purpose just to make money quick, if that was the case they'd have sold the company already (ex Hawk, many others in the industry.)

No fanboy here, I've got a mess of everyone's gear and can't understand all the hate for the group pushing the innovation. Just my 2 cents.
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The issue is how Tethrd has handled each piece of gear that’s failed. They’ve never done a recall before now, and refuse to acknowledge the issues. Instead they just go “out of stock” and produce Gen 2 or 3. With the one stick, they’re excessively loading the steps and then sending them back if they don’t fail. As you may have read here, several have received sticks with wobble after testing. How is that acceptable? They’re not doing an NDI (non-destructive inspection using dye penetrant) following the load. The sticks are rated to 300lbs and they’re losing them to 700lbs. My suspicion as to why they’re recalling is because they have some higher-profile hunters who they have outfitted with their gear, and are now known users of Tethrd and they couldn’t risk damaging their social media reputations- just my guess.


Semper Fi,
Mike
 
Slipnslide said:
This probably won't be popular and maybe I'm in the minority but I'd figure I'd share my experience with Tethrd and the whole ONE stick debacle...

I've had some of their saddles, but saddle hunting wasn't for me and I went back to a stand. Skipped the gen 1 and waited for gen 2, when released I ordered 2 sets and sold 1 single stick, every stick I got was perfect and had no wobble. Sent all 5 i had in for recall and when they came back in about 2-3 weeks, 2 sticks had bottom step wobble to them. I emailed (and expressed my concerns, maybe not so nicely) and got a call back the next day, 4 days later I had 2 new sticks sent to me, with new stealth strips. Hard for me to complain about that...

I'm around manufacturers everyday on much larger scale than Tethrd. Things happen and are hard to control even when you're building some components yourself and buying others and assembling items "in house." Let alone getting all the build done overseas. I'm just having a hard time with all the talk that guys who's started here are now "just out to make a quick buck and don't care about people" talk. I'm sorry but running a really small business is tough enough, let alone a business with massive growth like Tethrd. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB now but let's remember this company was started with 2 regular guys who met on a forum. Maybe they've rushed things, pushed the envelope too far/too fast but I just don't believe they're doing it on purpose just to make money quick, if that was the case they'd have sold the company already (ex Hawk, many others in the industry.)

No fanboy here, I've got a mess of everyone's gear and can't understand all the hate for the group pushing the innovation. Just my 2 cents.
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…never mind. Not gonna wade in. Your perspective is very valid.
 
I'm glad I opened a dispute with citi. Finally got a response from tethrd today they issued my refund. Minus my shipping

Your safety recall leading to a refund means you eat the shipping not me.

Beyond done with these guys. Ridiculous
 
jlh42581 said:
I'm glad I opened a dispute with citi. Finally got a response from tethrd today they issued my refund. Minus my shipping

Your safety recall leading to a refund means you eat the shipping not me.

Beyond done with these guys. Ridiculous
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Really? I was refunded for shipping also…. And my stealth strips….hmmm
 
enkriss said:
Really? I was refunded for shipping also…. And my stealth strips….hmmm
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Their CC processor probably hit them with a chargeback fee for the dispute...so they passed it on...
 
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