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The Best Public-Legal Climbing Method

denots said:
I know the correct name of that punctuation mark. I was just looking for a reason to plagiarize someone else's comedic work. You know how we roll! Toga, toga, toga, toga, toga


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Careful, you're on double secret probation.
 
So 8 steps is $200 plus the straps sold separately? Is this how it works?


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parkersdad said:
One Hawk Helium stick and a Black Diamon 5 step aider is what I will be using
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You're planning on climbing to the top of one stick with a five-step to reach your hunting height? Or using the one stick method in combination with a five-step? I only ask cuz the five-step seems a bit excessive for the one stick method.

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I bought the five step aider because I could not find a three step at the time I was buying. I use the aider at ground level for my first move and after that I just one stick climb the rest of the way.
 
parkersdad said:
I bought the five step aider because I could not find a three step at the time I was buying. I use the aider at ground level for my first move and after that I just one stick climb the rest of the way.
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Okay now I see what you're doing. That's what I was thinking in my head but I just wanted to clarify. I couldn't see where a 5-step was beneficial to a one stick method except for the first move. Thanks for the clarification brother.

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Nutterbuster said:
You may as well order now. I played the same game with cranfords. Figured if they were good enough for Eberhart and Womack they were good enough for me.

If they'd have had squirrels steps back then, they'd have used them. ;)
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I fit into that old school mentality, but I came to realize like everything else - products and people evolve. Some good Some bad. Let's just focus on Saddle hunters...mobility light weight steps are and will be the turning point that's going to turn the hunting industry upside down. For the sake of brevity, costs
will eventually come down, but the overall cost currently for saddle hunters is relative to its user base. The aspect to me is not so much the cost but the outdoor industry facepainters taking it over because they have the network resources. Fundamentally saddle hunters should be thinking longterm protection from those who will hijack the saddle hunting trend. Many good ideas are shared on this plateform, and I encourage those selling products here at least provide a phone number when a customer needs to call you. But the point is this. I encourage you to do business with those that provide solid support and products that allow us to enjoy hunting at another level of enjoyment without carrying 50 to 60lbs on your back. My dad use to say "dont bite the hand that feeds ya" well I'll pay more knowing I'm lighter and safer...
May The Magic of The Whitetail Forever Enrich Your Life
 
No problem. I have four Hawk sticks so I can use all four if I would like but more than likely I will probably use either one or two. With two hawk sticks and the five step aider I can get 15 to 20 feet with just three moves.


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Silvio said:
I fit into that old school mentality, but I came to realize like everything else - products and people evolve. Some good Some bad. Let's just focus on Saddle hunters...mobility light weight steps are and will be the turning point that's going to turn the hunting industry upside down. For the sake of brevity, costs
will eventually come down, but the overall cost currently for saddle hunters is relative to its user base. The aspect to me is not so much the cost but the outdoor industry facepainters taking it over because they have the network resources. Fundamentally saddle hunters should be thinking longterm protection from those who will hijack the saddle hunting trend. Many good ideas are shared on this plateform, and I encourage those selling products here at least provide a phone number when a customer needs to call you. But the point is this. I encourage you to do business with those that provide solid support and products that allow us to enjoy hunting at another level of enjoyment without carrying 50 to 60lbs on your back. My dad use to say "dont bite the hand that feeds ya" well I'll pay more knowing I'm lighter and safer...
May The Magic of The Whitetail Forever Enrich Your Life
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Very well said sir. Support the innovators and the locals.


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Squirrels said:
Very well said sir. Support the innovators and the locals.


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Thank you very much...I was in the industry at one point and disappointed what its turned into. I just love the sharing, fellowship, and the genuine comradery. We are all so blessed to communicate on a plateform such as this
 
@Nutterbuster I played with my cranfords some more this weekend. Will the squirrel steps fit in a normal sized binocular harness? That’s what I used today and it worked well with the cranfords.
 
I use some discretion when @Nutterbuster supports a product or method. I have no doubt he could sell a bald man a comb. Today I took my squirrel steps 5 of them and did climb. It is the real deal for the type of trees I climb. I need practice on linesman belt management and spacing steps. I may end up ditching my sticks.
 
EricS said:
A one step aider with wild edge is pretty much as stable as the knaider by itself. The advantage of the knaider is you don’t have to physically remove it and reinstall every time you take a step. The advantage of the wild edge aider is you can sit the aider to lift your foot and really stretch the steps out if you have to in order to reach a certain spot in the tree. Where the knaider or single step aider used alone shine is the head high step you’re holding onto while trying to reach that step that’s at waist height. Even if you kick out with the knaider or aider you are still in a reasonable position to recover if you can do half a pull-up. I’ll definitely practice it a lot with the cranfords. Right now it appears to be not as stable as wild edge with a single aider but more so than a five step aider. I think aiders make just about everything better except for maybe spurs and bolts. As long as your happy with 18”-20” per move it’s easy.
I have 5 skyhooks on an ocb and removed four to use it for comparison. It’s definitely faster than tying the timber hitch. At least on my smooth bark light pole tree. You don’t have to cam it with the perfect tension like with a ring of steps. Just place the hook give it a tug, and cam it. I just wish I had bought more of these steps in the 90s when no one wanted them.
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Are you talking about the skyhook steps that take a bolt ,and I slide the step over the bolt and down? I have some wad trying to figure a way to use Amsteel with them.
 
Redoak47* said:
Are you talking about the skyhook steps that take a bolt ,and I slide the step over the bolt and down? I have some wad trying to figure a way to use Amsteel with them.
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No api made a strap on version of the skyhook. AFCABFD7-F8A1-4CB6-ADDF-D0A8892094F0.jpeg
 
@sdonx have you considered making a 2 link daisy chain with one being what you’ll tie your timber hitch through and the other encasing your ameristeps. Similar to how the ameristeps strap held the step in one location. That should help you get it tighter. On the cranfords I’m playing with I took a 2” piece of wire coat hanger and basically made a sewing needle in a slight crescent shape. I wove it through the end of the rope and it helps me tie the timber hitch tighter. I’m still 30-40 seconds per step but that’ still about 6 minutes to 24 feet.
 
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