The JRB Climbing Method

[Plebe]

That’s the 5.5 Coppa 5000 I’m pretty sure. I’m not sure if that’s his favorite, but I have some of that left over I will try.

Excel (see previous post), from the shopping list.

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[gcr0003]

Excel (see previous post), from the shopping list.

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Haha it even says it’s his favorite! Thanks

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

That’s the 5.5 Coppa 5000 I’m pretty sure. I’m not sure if that’s his favorite, but I have some of that left over I will try.

I like 5.5 coppa personally or titan cord from Bluewater ropes. Coppa seems to tie a little easier but titan cord is amazingly strong and resilient

 

[gcr0003]

I like 5.5 coppa personally or titan cord from Bluewater ropes. Coppa seems to tie a little easier but titan cord is amazingly strong and resilient

I know I’m using coppa out of spec so I kinda want to get back to basics with the next chord I buy. I also want something that is good and heat resistant in case I have to ride a hitch down. I do like the feel of coppa though.

 

[Brocky]

The 5.5mm Coppa has a break strength of a little under 14kN. The TRC’s Technora cover on a Technora rope, like Oplux, sometimes require an extra wrap. I don’t have a favorite, just got some 5.5mm Camp Cordino that is nice and flexible, and splices nicely, below.
Sterling’s 6mm XTEC is an all Technora cord that works nice as long as the cover is relaxed, also below.

The Stitch and Oval VT are adjustable so that most cords can be easily used.

 

[MattMan81]

Which cord did you guys like on the 11mm predator rope? Was looking at the 8mm sterling cord on EWO. The 8mm eye cord I used running MRS I had no complaints with. So size seems good.

 

[LoadedLimbs]

@MattMan81 - 8mm Yale Bee-Line is what you want. It works great with Sampson Predator 11.4mm rope, and offers great strength and extreme heat resistance. If you don’t make sure your friction hitches are loosened up nicely before rappelling down your JRB system, you can easily damage a hitch cord that isn’t heat resistant.

Specs on 8mm Yale Bee-Line can be found here:

8mm Yale Bee-Line

A blended poly/Technora cover provides extra protection for the 12 strand core in this line from Yale. 5/16” (8mm) Bee Line has a Vectran core and 75% Technora/25% polyester jacket. Technora fibers are heat resistant to 900°. Breaking strength is 8,000 lbs.

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[LoadedLimbs]

Just checked WesSpur.com and they have a much better price on the Yale Bee-Line hitch cord. 20’ for $34.00.

Plus, they have a discount code of “NYSH” that’s good for 10% off, if it’s still active… https://wesspur.com//prusiks/bee-line.html

 

[Brocky]

The HRC is another choice for an 8mm cord, a lot of arborists like it, the Beeline seems to have too baggy of a cover.

 

[John RB]

@John RB i just picked up some 8mm Oplux, I’ve been using mammut dry alpine for JRB to date. Anyway, what has been your favorite chord for oplux? I’m leaning toward the TRC 6mm since it’s recommended by Sterling but I have also had luck with 5.5 beal and 5.5 coppa in the past on Samson ultra tech 8mm. Any thoughts?

@Brocky if you have climbed on Oplux, what chord would you recommend as well?

I apologize, but Tapatalk is basically dead on my phone. I reinstalled the app because i was not getting notifications and now it won't even connect. And so I am on my computer, catching up.... yes, that Excel Racing Dinghy Control Line is my favorite stuff right now. I like it better than any other 6mm cord I have tried. I get mine from Knot and Rope supply, in the dark grey.

In comparison,
Sterling TRC is actually too 'grippy' and does not move as well and jams up more easily.
6mm standard Sterling cord is actually not recommended for life safety applications, probably because of its strength, but it does behave well.
6mm PMI cord is stiffer than sterling. It works, but I like the ones above better.
The Blue Water Titan 5mm is actually 5.5mm and although it works, its stiffer and a little harder to work with. Also might be a bit more difficult to break, especially for a bigger climber.
7mm sterling cord generally does work on 8mm ropes too. I don't like the extra size considering I need to put it thru a crotch. But a bigger/heavier climber might want something more bulky to grab with their fingers to break.
That Robline Coppa 5000 worked but did not have a sheath that impressed me and i felt that it was wearing too quickly and so I ended that experiment.

 

[Bowmanmike]

Which cord did you guys like on the 11mm predator rope? Was looking at the 8mm sterling cord on EWO. The 8mm eye cord I used running MRS I had no complaints with. So size seems good.

I run the 8mm sterling on my predator rope and have no complaints. Still using the michocans and not the jrb ascender hitch.

 

[John RB]

@arm breaker started this thread a while back and I appreciate that it exists. I confess that I am getting a little busy helping people these days, and so I don't always take the time to update it as I make improvements. And so here is a status update.

As per the link he posted on the very first post, the JRB Climbing Method is a PLAYLIST on my channel. There are other playlists for other things. But it captures the evolution of this over the last 2 years. The most recent videos are at the bottom.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLETL-PceEXkbFvJsWu-N-iXSTCuzJnr0Z

My recent challenge has been this: how do I show in a video that something is easy? I made several attempts:

• Climbing carrying 95 pounds of cast iron. I haven't seen any attempts to duplicate this in other methods.
• Climbing in 100 degree heat, actually 2 quick climbs. Sure, anybody could do this, but it wasn't a problem. I truly can do it all day.
• Climbing a leaning tree, something that DRT climbers struggle with, and sticks are more likely to kick out on.
• Showing the very first climb made by a new climber, who is a petite woman

In other news, I am spending most of my energy developing my other original method, the JRB Hitch Climbing method, a rope method that does not use a throwball. There is a separate playlist on that. I have nothing for sale here: everything I do is for your benefit. If my pennies from YouTube ever catch up to the money I am spending on gear (such as rope, cord, cameras, software and a dynamic load scale), I will buy the beer.

 

[MattMan81]

Hey @John RB maybe you should talk to dano. Maybe get a kick back for a JRB kit. The rings, biners, ropes, and a footloop. I hate Amazon and trying not to order anything from them I can't get else where.

 

[MattMan81]

Just checked WesSpur.com and they have a much better price on the Yale Bee-Line hitch cord. 20’ for $34.00.

Plus, they have a discount code of “NYSH” that’s good for 10% off, if it’s still active… https://wesspur.com//prusiks/bee-line.html

So ordered some cord, and few cheap biners to do handles. NYSH still gives you a discount. Saved me a few bucks. Also to note any one else looking to try MRS or the JRB system, those discounted ropes can be a good way to try it. I grabbed 85' of blue moon for $54. Shipping to the east from their is expensive. But get over that hundred and you saved. So I either paid shipping, or added some rope for free shipped. So the rope add on was a little less if you ask me. Yea it's blue. But it will match my timber pump outfit.

 

[John RB]

So ordered some cord, and few cheap biners to do handles. NYSH still gives you a discount. Saved me a few bucks. Also to note any one else looking to try MRS or the JRB system, those discounted ropes can be a good way to try it. I grabbed 85' of blue moon for $54. Shipping to the east from their is expensive. But get over that hundred and you saved. So I either paid shipping, or added some rope for free shipped. So the rope add on was a little less if you ask me. Yea it's blue. But it will match my timber pump outfit.

Wesspur is an arborist company. I have bought some stuff them but most of it isn't a match for where i am going. Arborists don't climb on small diameter stuff because they are running saws and have to use thick rope. Now I am seeing an an 11.7mm rope for saddle guys who grind their ropes thru tree crotches. They can have it, I have no use for. I am using 8mm an smaller rope. 8mm rope is less than half the bulk of 11.7. My 7.1 ropes are obviously smaller.

The Mammut rope is awesome. And 30m for this price is amazing.

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[John RB]

Hey @John RB maybe you should talk to dano. Maybe get a kick back for a JRB kit. The rings, biners, ropes, and a footloop. I hate Amazon and trying not to order anything from them I can't get else where.

Thx. I really like the guys at EWO. I actually met em in 2021at a saddle event. And this was discussed but as a future possibility given that it was too new at that time. The problem i see with a "kit" is that it needs to be customized for each person. Some may already have a rope, or carabiners or a throwball or whatever. And they shouldn't need to spend any money on anything they don't need. For now, i am intentionally deferring the business side of the system to get all my stuff published... there's more coming!

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[John RB]

Between Facebook and YouTube and SaddleHunter, all the stuff I publish can be summarized under one theme, and that's helping other people climb and tie in. But I am spending money a hell of a lot faster than the pennies from YouTube add up... and a handful of good souls have told me that I should sign up for patreon, where supporters can basically leave a tip to support what we're doing here. And so I am just making that information known to you. Thanks if you're so inclined.

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[gcr0003]

Between Facebook and YouTube and SaddleHunter, all the stuff I publish can be summarized under one theme, and that's helping other people climb and tie in. But I am spending money a hell of a lot faster than the pennies from YouTube add up... and a handful of good souls have told me that I should sign up for patreon, where supporters can basically leave a tip to support what we're doing here. And so I am just making that information known to you. Thanks if you're so inclined.

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About time John. I know you liked to say how you do all this stuff for free so you’re pushing just your good ideas to help people start or try new climbing methods and be safe while doing it, but stuff isn’t free and good people with good ideas get paid and so should you. At bare minimum I hope it covers every one of the latest and greatest ropes and hitch cords out there for you to try and review with your JRB Climbing Systems.

 

[LoadedLimbs]

Between Facebook and YouTube and SaddleHunter, all the stuff I publish can be summarized under one theme, and that's helping other people climb and tie in. But I am spending money a hell of a lot faster than the pennies from YouTube add up... and a handful of good souls have told me that I should sign up for patreon, where supporters can basically leave a tip to support what we're doing here. And so I am just making that information known to you. Thanks if you're so inclined.

Get more from JRB Tree Climbing on Patreon

creating Innovations in tree climbing, rope climbing and knots.

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@John RB - Starting a Patreon presence is a great idea! As I said in a previous post a few weeks ago, I’m grateful for all the time and energy you have invested in the content you’ve created and shared to date!

I’m happy to support your continued content creation. Great job to date - keep up the good work!

 

[John RB]

@John RB - Starting a Patreon presence is a great idea! As I said in a previous post a few weeks ago, I’m grateful for all the time and energy you have invested in the content you’ve created and shared to date!

I’m happy to support your continued content creation. Great job to date - keep up the good work!

That is greatly appreciated.

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