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The Knaider in action

SO I am curious - do you guys plan on removing these while you hunt? I still wonder how they will work on really leaning trees. Not going to try this this year but might for next. I sure wish gaffs were allowed don't think anything could be easier or as versatile.
 
I took advantage of free shipping and ordered the 5 stepp bag today. 5 stepps gets me nearly to 35 feet if I push it and 25-30 feet with the knaider. I love how light and compact this system is.

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Would you be able to explain how you are getting to 35 feet with 5 steps? That would mean you are getting 7 feet per step right?
 
Would you be able to explain how you are getting to 35 feet with 5 steps? That would mean you are getting 7 feet per step right?

Yes, 7 feet per step. You may be able to do better if you are taller.

Step 1: Attach the Stepp to the tree as high as you can reach. Some guys struggle getting it up. If you do, try cinching up your linemans belt driving your hips into the tree. This is easily done and released with a ropeman.

Step 2: Climb up to the stepp. You have a couple different options.

Option 1. Knaider and Double Swaider. See recent threads for more information. I posted a couple times today.

Option 2. Multistep Aider. With or without Knaider. The knaider helps remove the multistep aider and advance the linemans belt but it can be done with the knaider. Clip/Unclip the multistep aider as you move up and down the tree.
 
Hey, this might be a crazy idea. What if you set one WE step as hi as possible with a multi step aider hanging beneath it. The bottom of the multi step aider would be attached to another WE step that is installed upside down. If the aider had some adjustability it could be cinched tight. This should hold everything tight and give you an offset ladder up the tree.


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Hey, this might be a crazy idea. What if you set one WE step as hi as possible with a multi step aider hanging beneath it. The bottom of the multi step aider would be attached to another WE step that is installed upside down. If the aider had some adjustability it could be cinched tight. This should hold everything tight and give you an offset ladder up the tree.


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I think you need to try it and report back :)

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Fair enough. However, I don’t own any WE steps. For entertainment purposes, I think someone ELSE should give this a go and film the first attempt.


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SO I am curious - do you guys plan on removing these while you hunt? I still wonder how they will work on really leaning trees. Not going to try this this year but might for next. I sure wish gaffs were allowed don't think anything could be easier or as versatile.

On the bigger leaners, you spacing is limited to somewhere between 3.5 - 3.75 feet. That still gets you in that 18- 20 foot range with 5 stepps.
 
I was here before getting accepted into the group.. then I couldn't find this thread again... went back to YouTube and found it!!! I have made a couple pairs and used them, first off peterk123 you are a genius!! Thank you for sharing!! Next, this is an amazing group thanks to all of you for welcoming me!! Ok.. helpful tips I found.. first the cinchers, I found that a piece of gardenhose about 1.5" long split the long way and wrapped tight around the webbing and electrical taped (first round, second round I shrink tubed to quell the unraveling of tape) works sweet and no slip... next I found that a piece of 3/8" rubber tube like vacuum line or just steal a piece of the sprayer hose on your sink( the wife or landlord won't mind) when warmed up slips over the knader hook and silences the metal to metal noise AND adds a no slip grip!! I will do the same for my biner on swader... yeah I'm a pack rat and have too much time on my hands!!
 
SO I am curious - do you guys plan on removing these while you hunt? I still wonder how they will work on really leaning trees. Not going to try this this year but might for next. I sure wish gaffs were allowed don't think anything could be easier or as versatile.
I made elastic holder strips and I just leave them on while hunting.. first pair had solid webbing around knee and put legs to sleep.. not good at 20-30' .. lol.. just don't use elastic or plastic clips on the load bearing straps
 
I will try to get some close up videos made of both aiders in action. The short one is pretty obvious. The longer aider probably needs a visual to help understand what is going on with the shock chord and carabiner. The shock chord is not necessary, but boy does it make things run smooth.
Found this thread on YouTube and made some!! Then after joining/being admitted to this group I couldn't find the thread again... duh I went back to your vid and read all your replies untill I found the link to here!!! Thanks you are a genius!! I added some cheap cinchers and silencer ideas to the thread today!! Glad to part of this forum, an amazing resource and amazing people!!
 
I've used the knaider and swaider and really found it super easy to use. My only issue is to get faster with Wild Edge Stepps. I really like them but find myself (maybe just me) spending too much time trying to get them set just right. I don't have an issue with the speed of getting the knot. It's more about how to get the cinch pressure to really hold it in without moving or kicking out. I will say aiders of any kind on a leaning tree very hard to do.
 
I've used the knaider and swaider and really found it super easy to use. My only issue is to get faster with Wild Edge Stepps. I really like them but find myself (maybe just me) spending too much time trying to get them set just right. I don't have an issue with the speed of getting the knot. It's more about how to get the cinch pressure to really hold it in without moving or kicking out. I will say aiders of any kind on a leaning tree very hard to do.
It’s not just you. The steps have a fiddle factor to them that’s for sure.
 
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